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1)Sheila Currie
~ Affiliate links question

2.) Darryl Warriner
~ Seasons Greetings to AdlandPro Subscribers

3.)Chris Wilkinson
~ Tracking visitors

4.) Carla Ackley
~ The profit in answering  phone calls and  emails in a timely manner

5.) Connie Blango
~ I Am a New Member!

6. Don Wetmore
~ Holiday stress



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From: "John Colanzi" <jcolanzi@surfree.com>
Subject: Re: Affiliate Programs, Do The Fiqures Add Up?


Bogdan,
I would agree with Bill that some of the large fiqures are
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He's talking click throughs and site visits and not everyone
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I get most of my sign ups through email. I visit forums, promote to
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I recently sent an email to my personal contacts that has made
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From: Sheila Currie <currie@megsinet.net>
Subject: Affiliate links question

Help html literate readers!

I need answers from people familiar with affiliate codes.  I created an affiliate
mall and I wonder if I made a very big mistake.  I placed my affiliate code on the
page with MS Word then saved and brought up in Lotus Word Pro for easy formatting.
So far no problem, but I noticed these little boxes next to the hyperlink (they were
slowing the page opening).  I tried deleting one and noticed the hyperlink remained
intact.  I assumed these were used to create the words as a picture and seeing as
they would not be needed when using hyperlinks I deleted all of them.  I assumed no
one was purchasing from my site but I just made a purchase and the company did not
post a sale.  Question?  Did I delete some sort of a tracker when I delete these
pictures?
What gets deleted in the code is the ending source description.  For example:
<IMG border=0 width=1 height=1
src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=ansC3gLx8Co&bids=XXXX&type=3&subid=0">
Isn't this just a picture link?  Does anyone know if it is ok to delete this part of
the code?  I still have the link portion hyperlinked to the companies name.  For
example:  <a
href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=ansC3gLx8Co&offerid=XXXX&type=3&sub
id=0>

Would that be enough to track the sale?

Anyone with answers please email me, (or write the erzine).  If you want to check my
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shoppers but if I goofed I should fix it as soon as possible.

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Subject: Seasons Greetings to AdlandPro Subscribers

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Subject: tracking visitors

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From: Carla Ackley <info@classichits.com>
Subject:The profit in answering  phone calls and  emails in a timely manner


I have found that it has been quite profitable in answering my phone
personally during the day. Ever since I have started working at home full
time, I have seen a dramatic increase in more orders.
Namely, this is from answering my phone, instead of using voice mail.

Customers and potential clients have told me that they have gone down the
list of businesses in the search engines and called each one.
I have been told specifically by many that the reason I got the business was
because I was the only one who answered the phone during the day!

Many online businesses it seems, are part time ventures. Most people work
a full time job, and then come home in the evening to run their small
business. Customers have stated that they did not want to leave a voice
message.
Occasionally, I do notice hang ups when I cannot get to the phone in time,
or am away.

Another big turnoff are Email Autoresponders. Many callers have mentioned this
as well. I always make it a point to call back, or return an email within 2
hours time maximum, if at all possible. Most people want an immediate reply.
If they don't get one, they move on to the next company.

I also use Caller ID on the phone. If someone does not leave a message when
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From: "Connie Blango" <connieree@dcemail.com>
Subject: I Am a New Member!

Hello,

My name is Connie and I am a new member to this
discussion group.  I am currently doing Internet
marketing selling websites, and I am not doing
so well getting sales.  I am interested in hearing
from anybody who is doing this type of work online
and receving any marketing tips to help generate
sales.

Connie Blango

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Subject: Holiday stress

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The 12 or so steps...to a Successful Internet Marketer!
Patrick Curl


1.) Goals--you need them, gotta have them.
If you don't write down your goals, its about 10 times more
likely you won't accomplish them, writing things down helps
us focus, it imprints it into our minds, and it gives us
something to look at when we do get lost and discouraged...

set yearly goals--ie where do you want to be in a year from
now?

set monthly and weekly goals--where do you want to be in a
month or week? or what are you going to do each week to
reach your big goals.

set daily goals, these should be more detailed--stating how
you are going to reach your monthly, and yearly goals--for
instance they might be submitting 10 FREE Classified ads a
day, and sending so much email a day--etc....

2.) Learn from others and duplicate what they are doing.

One habit many network marketers fall into is thinking:
"I can find my own path, I don't need anyone's help" I agree
its good to try a few things, maybe to spice up the system,
but before you join any group you should make sure it has a
turn-key system, ie a system that you can be put into and
begin earning commissions fast.

3.) Budget your time & Keep Away From Distractions.

This is a hard one, everytime I get online, there is so much
to do, sometimes I'd rather surf than promote, I like trying
to find ways to spice up my site, and I end up spending hours
that could have been better spent submitting my site to
search engines, FFA Links pages, etc...but to succeed you need
to focus everything into your business.

4.) Paid Advertising, Makes Everything a whole lot easier!

Kinda self explanatory, by buying advertising, you don't need
to work as hard in promoting your site, all the hard work is
done, I recommend starting out small testing a few venues, and
see which ones fan out the best for your product or service..
one site I recommend is Click-thru.net you can buy click-thrus
(ie visitors to your site)for $.10 each, and if you are a double
click-thru member you get twice the hits. I would also advise
checking into some ezine advertising.

5.)Start an ezine,
This is very helpful you should generally have a few newsletters
for the following reasons:

A. To communicate to your downline
B. To Communicate to your prospects/website visitors
C. To supply information people need or want, thus attracting
---many subscribers and gaining credibility for your business,
---this also acts as a good prospecting tool--in your ezines you
---can put your own classifieds, or charge others to put
---advertising in for you.

6.)A tip for Low Cost Offline Marketing!

Become a Post-it Note Warrior!
Here is what you do, grab a few packs of post-it notes, on each
one write a little message-this could be as complex as a small
classified ad, or it could simply say as little as "Sorry I
Missed you Please Call: your phone... now leave a message on your
answering machine,or better yet get a voice mail box and insert an
overview of your company, and let each individual leave you a
message.

7.)Keep At It--And STAY WITH ONE COMPANY!
Through the hustle and bustle of online advertising we usually
end up receiving tons of emails in our inbox, all of these have
different offers, if you wanna succeed Do Not Switch Companies
Every Month! Its okay to try some of these programs, I have tried
many, and haven't succeeded in anything other than my core program,
so I pretty much stay away from other people's opps, sometimes I
do give into curiosity, and might check it out.

The main point here is FOCUS on ONE MAIN PROGRAM! Keep this program
in the forefront of everything else, and stay with it for at LEAST
ONE YEAR, the majority of people who fail in Network Marketing are
those who said I'll stick with it for 6 months, and if it doesn't work,
I'll try something else, the majority of people who succeed are the
ones who said "I Think I'll stick it out for at least a year"

--It takes time many businesses require thousands start-up and much
more in time, and training.

You Tell me who will be more successful: The Guy who treats his
business as a $500,000 business, or the man who acts like his business
is just his hobby--I opt for contestant #1.

--And That's All I gotta say about that!

8.)Read, Delve, Become a MLM Genius.

Read ye from the best books, words of wisdom.

Just keep learning, soak up everything you can possibly find on network
marketing, books, magazines, seminars, conventions, tapes, videos, college
courses, online resources--everything--learn as much as you can, and you
will learn to love the industry, and you will be successful! Always Be a
Student of MLM Gurus!

9.)Improve Thyself!
Buy those self help tapes, get the Tony Robbins videos, when you believe
you can be successful, then, and only then are you on the right path
--Have confidence in yourself good things will come of your hard work--Dress
Right, and Look Professional, Look Professional, and you'll feel
professional,
feel professional and you'll Become professional!

10.)Read the following books: Richest man in Babylon, The Seven Habits of
Highly Successful People, How to win Friends, and Influence People, just to
name a few.

11.)Speak up!

Talk, spread the word--do not feel bad about talking to family and
Friends--just share the dream, not to put you on the spot, but by not telling
them, they could be missing out on their chance to fulfill all of their
dreams.

Also Speak to everyone that comes with-in arms reach, I try and speak to at
least 25 new people a day.

12.)Overcome Telephone Fear--The People in my company who have picked up the
phone to call their prospects, have received 25% more sign-ups than those who
don't.

The telephone was my BIGGEST Mistake, I always thought I could market
without the use of the telephone, it scared me to pick up the phone, then I
joined Life Force--my MLM company, for the first 6 months or so I stuck to
online advertising, but as my group grew, and I grew, and my business grew,
and my income grew I began to feel more and more like a leader, and felt more
and more like I needed to overcome all of my fears, and be an example to my
downline.

Now I use the telephone as much as any other medium, and I am doing GREEEATT!


Well in closing: these are just a few tips I have picked up along the way,
they are subject to your own translations, and can be used anyway you see
fit, you could print them out and burn the paper for warmth, if you do
disregard this information, that is probably what you'll need to do
most-since  you probably won't be able to afford most other luxuries.
But I sincerely  hope  that we can meet together someday on a Carribean
island with no cares or  worries,  and just chat about our success--Oh there
I go again-I'm getting a little  teary  eyed..

Here's to Your Success!

Article written by Patrick W. Curl
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