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                      Vol. 1 issue #314  Oct, 23, 2002


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Topics in this issue:

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Word from Publisher
1.7 WAYS TO LOSE CUSTOMERS FAST
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C o n t i n u i n g   D i s c u s s i o n s (5)
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1.Has Anyone Perfected the Pyramid?
~Ben Marroquin
~Sharon Bray-McPherson
~David Harrison

2.GP
~William Jaroske
~Adrian Elman

3.What makes a GOOD autoresponder?
~John Olson
~Adrian Elman

4.Short URL
~Subi
~Lee Klemetti

5.Spam has me stumped
~Laurie Rogers


N e w     P o s t s  (1)
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1.Andy Sparks
~Oveture profits down, stock price is falling today.


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1.David Weed
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2.Rikie
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Site Review Responses   (6)
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1.April Waters
~ http://www.valudealz.com

2.John Olson
~ http://www.foraffiliaterewards.com

3.John Olson
~ http://www.pondaray.com

4.Charles Green
~ http://www.tbart.net

5.Andy Sparks
~ http://www.foraffiliaterewards.com

6.Andy Sparks
~ http://www.pondaray.com


G u e s t   A r t i c l e    (1)
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1.Your Perfect Home Business May Be Right In Front of You
By Angela Wu

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Greetings All

Welcome  160 new subscribers who joined list since last mailing.

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Several weeks ago one of  Adland Digest subscribers brought to
my attention this site http://www.trafficranking.com and mentioned
that Adlandpro was listed there as about 580-th site in the world according
to traffic criteria. I have checked Adlandpro ranking again several days
ago and to my surprise ranking of  my site jumped to  385.

Considering that I have not done any work for the last year in terms of
promoting my site on search engines or paying for advertising and that
I run my business from the basement with two part time employees, gives
me quite a good feeling.  Sites like ibm.com, bcentral.com, ups.com,
mp3s.com, dictionary.com, capitalone.com, tucows.com, directhit.com,
columbiahouse.com, fedex.com, e-gold.com, linkshare.com, lycos.co.uk,
americanexpress.com, cdnow.com, walmart.com, roibot.com, ivillage.com,
google.fr, sony.com  run multimillion or multibillion operations yet they
are listed behind Adlandpro.com. Some of those companies were in business
before I could spell single word in English. This doesn't mean that I'm so young
:(
I just had to learn English bit later in my life.

I feel very proud and have hard time to hide my joy.
A little over 5 years ago I have bought myself HP computer with
120 MHz Pentium and installed on it Web server. I bought
static internet connection with 56 K speed . At that time, this was quite
an expense for me and I had wandered several times  if paying for
this each month makes any sense. These days I have 5 high powered
Dell servers with 2 or 4 processors, two T1 connections and several
workstations.
So as you see, there is always hope, you just need to try and "plug
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difficult tasks.

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=================7 WAYS TO LOSE CUSTOMERS FAST=====================
From:Tom Falco

1) Ignore emails or take too long to respond.

The correct form is to reply to emails within 24 hours.
Even if you don't have the product or service the
customer is asking for, the proper etiquette is to
 respond and not ignore the request.

When you respond, you can lead them to someone
who has the item they desire, or steer them to
something else you might have to offer.

2) Responding to email, but giving no information.

Email is the most effective tool for on-line business
communication. Make sure you get all you can out
of your emails. When a client or potential customer
emails you a question or comment, it is very important
to reply and if possible, keep a dialogue going.
Your objective is to sell. Place links to certain items
or services you would like the client to see and actually
come out and tell them to click on the link to see the item.

3) Being rude because they were rude to you.

If a customer sends you a rude email complaining
about something, DO NOT respond in kind. Be polite
and professional. Many times people get frustrated
and they fire off rude emails and then it's too late to
take them back. Just forgive and forget, answer the
person's request and go on. Lead them in the right
direction with a website link if necessary, but don't be
rude in return.

4) Taking too long to send the item a
customer ordered.

Many times items are back ordered or lately,
it seems, the shipping companies from UPS to
the U.S. Postal Service have been delaying many
shipments, especially packages weighing
over 16 ounces.

If you don't have an item in stock, give the customer
a choice of waiting for it, replacing it with another item,
or cancelling their order. Be fair.

If there is a delay for any reason, be up front with
the customer and don't ignore the fact. Tell them
before they have a chance to email or call to
complain. They'll appreciate the honesty
and professionalism.

5) Having a slow moving, slow downloading
hard to navigate website.

We have said time and time again. No one
cares about your java genius. People want to
get in, get what they want and get out. They don't
want to see a star and light show that you learned in
your last java class. Make it easy for people to
navigate around your site. Lead them to the products
or services they desire without delaying any
page downloads.

6) Using annoying pop up windows

People hate pop up windows and the more
you use them, the more likely they will leave
and never return to your site. The worst is when
they try to leave and windows keep popping up,
keeping them hostage. This does not work in
getting customers. It only repels customers.

7) Not posting your return policy and not guaranteeing
your service or products 100%.

People want to see what their options are if they are
unhappy with your product or service. Post a return
policy and use it. If a person is unhappy for some
reason, give them a full refund. This will impress them
and they will surely be back another time.


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and also owns: http://www.TheDiscountPrinter.com

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.1)=============
From:Ben Marroquin
Subject:Has Anyone Perfected the Pyramid?

Hi Adland Pro Members,

I have to agree with Max, Katheryn, and the rest of the pro-mlm/network
marketing subscribers. I believe MLM/Network Marketing is a viable and
positive home business
...provided you love the products your representing.

I have joined several mlm companies in the past, but couldn't afford the
cost of products and advertising combined, so they inevitably failed. Another
reason was that I chose nutritional mlm companies but found that this wasn't
for me because their (the mlm company) prices were higher than the company
(prosource) I usually bought my protein, vitamins, and other weight lifting
supplements from...So I had no enthusiasm for the mlm business.

But I always believed in the concept, so I searched the net until a friend
introduced me to a new technology based mlm/network marketing home
business that offered incredible products and services that I was already
using for less, so I jumped on board and am having a blast!

I love all the free training I receive in the video iconference rooms, the
people I meet from around the world, and the fact that the owners are so
accessible. Heck, I love the fact that I can advertise my main business in
the iConference rooms. Anyone can try their products for free
...which is a great selling point.

One of the biggest MLM/Network Marketing misconceptions is that those
involved with mlm/network marketing must sell their products, services, and/or
products to friends, family, and relatives...but that's just outdated thinking.

There are plenty of ways to introduce people from across the world to your
chosen mlm/network marketing home business. You can buy leads from
reputable sources, advertise in enzines, use pay per click search engines,
advertise in classifieds, use click for click programs, participate in company
sponsored Co-ops, and use a plethora of other marketing methods to build
your business.

I'm now putting all that training I received from my past and present mlm
ventures to good use and am building my business. I've read "Your 1st
Year in Network Marketing" and understand that it will take hard work
and marketing to build a successful mlm/networking marketing business,
but when you love what your doing, the work doesn't seem so hard.

And to quote Sharon Bray-McPherson

"No, I'm not raking in huge amounts of money - YET - but I'm happier
than I've been in any of my business ventures because I'm involved with
an established company that I believe in."

Wishing You Success
Ben Marroquin


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.2)=============
From:Sharon Bray-McPherson
Subject:Has Anyone Perfected the Pyramid?

In response to the following remarks:

>From:Max Welton
>Subject:Has Anyone Perfected the Pyramid?

>Those of us who do know about MLM (I don't know everything), would be
>absolutely foolish to think that we could make money from a company without
>using their products. HOW can anyone sell/market products they don't
>like or wouldn't use ? ? ?

Dear Mr. Welton,

I agree with your statements.  The response I give to those in my
downline who ask why they should buy and use products from the company
they represent, "would you trust buying a Ford from a guy who drives a
Chevrolet?"

Sharon Bray-McPherson

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.3)=============
From:Ian David Harrison
Subject:Has Anyone Perfected the Pyramid?

Hi everyone;

This to, is my first post here, and I have been receiving these posts for
well over a year.

Two years in Network Marketing has brought me to an interesting place in my
journey through life.

What is Network Marketing?

Is it selling goods? Yes - Same as a store front! But often better quality.
Is it making money off the people you recruit. Yes - B.T.W. your boss makes
money off you also, otherwise he/she wouldn't have hired you!
Do I make more money than the people I sponsor?  Not necessarily - I have a
distributor who has made far more than me and is building a huge business
in Thailand.
Is every NWM/Affiliate opportunity ideal for me? No - Neither is a 'normal
business' research it first.

What is Network Marketing ?

This is what I believe Network Marketing is really all about.

PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT

It is the most confronting business I have ever been involved with. It
shows up a whole bunch of weaknesses. So, instead of quiting and blaming my
sponsor, my company, or claim it a scam, I took a good long hard look at
myself. I then set about expanding my thinking.

I found a website that is packed with personal development information. It
makes no profit and is there to act as a beacon for the wanna-a-be
entrepreneur.

If you you think that NWM/Affiliate programs are a scam, then let me
suggest a scenario for you. You will stand, steadfast on your belief, arms
folded, until someone you respect says something positive about this
industry. Then (1,2-5 years from now) You'll feel like a turkey!

I have developed to the point where I know that I shouldn't Say that, but,
I'm so confident and empowered now, that I can enjoy teasing the anti-mlm
fraternity.

By-the-way,  NWM/Affiliate Marketing is a huge lesson in Leveraging also.

Success is your responsibility, not the sponsors, or the company. If you
fail, be an adult about it. Fess up, declare you mistake, learn from it,
and get better.

I am Ian David Harrison from Australia. My mentors are all American (Right
on your door step!). They are now my upline.


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.1)=============
From:William Jaroske
Subject:GP

In response to John Olson's comments,


John, since you don't trust World Wide Scam's website.
I see how you give yourself away on that what you
intend to do further down the road.

That site is used to prevent people from being scammed
out of their hard earned money. Say it is not so. Call
it only satire. Disregard all you want about it. It
will still be there to prevent people from making huge
mistakes of joining known scams on the internet.

As the saying goes. Take heed when the alarm has been
sounded. In closing.I can only guess on how many
people have really been misled to the road of
disaster.

William Jaroske



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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.2)=============
From:Adrian Elman
Subject:GP

In response to John Olsen:

I have no intention of arguing with you any further John.
You have twisted my words out of all context to justify
your beloved CEO's dishonest practices.

You may think it is acceptable to turn a blind eye to all
his indiscretions but I can assure you there will be a
price to pay for all the muck he has raked up.

As you know, GP predictably failed to pay members
the promised July commissions last week. First Alan
claimed the delay was due to stuffing checks into
envelopes. Then it was because PayPal were setting
up a special system for GP which demanded 2 to 3
days. Then PayPal had decided not to do business
with GP and frozen their account. And the latest is
that GP were waiting for UPS to deliver the checks
that they were supposedly stuffing into envelopes in
September. At the time of writing (October 20th),
not one single person has been paid as promised.
Perhaps you would like to defend Alan's position?

One thing is certain, and that's that none of the things
this company has done to its members would ever be
tolerated in any other affiliate program. How Alan has
managed to secure the loyalty of so many deceived
members escapes me! Either he is some kind of god
or he is a darned good hypnotist.

Regards,
Adrian Elman


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.1)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:What makes a GOOD autoresponder?

Adrian,

Hey, we agree on something. I think you are right on the money with your
assessment of Lead Lightening. Over Priced and Substandard Products. I could
not believe that they could get away with offering this stuff at that price.
And People are jumping on board this thing. I use Automarketic for my
responders, and have 50 unlimited message responders for less then half the
cost of Lead Lightening's 25. And I have more options then they do.

As I was looking this over and shaking my head, I ran across a program
called Green$onders. For again, less then half the cost, they offer
unlimited AR's and almost everything else offered by LL. I am not saying
Green$onders is great, just offering it for comparison.

LL is all Hype and name and nothing else worth while. I dare say the same
seems to be true of the latest Mark Joyner Guerrilla Marketing thing. See, I
am learning.... ;-)

(I still like GP and CE though)

I also looked over your Quick Tell and I must say, it looks like a Very good
product you offer. I hope it does well for you. I am looking forward to
seeing what the new and improved Quick Tell is. Thanks for giving us a heads
up.

Take care, see we can agree.

John Olson


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.2)=============
From:Adrian Elman
Subject:What makes a GOOD autoresponder?

In response to Judie:

I can understand your enthusiasm over GMT! because
it is making you money Judie. However the point of this
thread was to discuss what features people want and
need in an autoresponder, bearing in mind that people's
needs will differ depending on what they are marketing.

GMT! is purely a money game. They purchased their
VarPRO autoresponder script from Pagematic for the
sum of $549.95 which tells you a lot about the quality
of the product they sell. In case you are not aware of
what it costs to provide a real autoresponder system,
QuickTell Advanced cost us $106,000 and our new
product QT-Pro will stand us in at $250,000.

GMT!'s free members get unlimited responders as long
as they use each one to send a minimum of 100 mails
a month. Naturally each mail is tagged with the GMT!
opportunity. Upgrading costs $199.95 and you still get
unlimited responders.

So far the deal sounds reasonable but they are trying
to run it as a pyramid scam by convincing you to invest
in 3 memberships (known as a tripod). As 1 membership
gives you unlimited responders there is absolutely no
need whatsoever to purchase any more. Therefore such
a purchase is only being encouraged to put more money
into the pyramid and increase commissions.

Apart from being illegal, and the main reason for SkyBiz
being shut down, GMT! focuses solely on the money
game and not on the product. The VarPRO script is not
a bad one and will suffice for most people's needs but
I doubt many people are actually using the responders.
Indeed I question the logic in purchasing 3 memberships
which amounts to $579 when the script itself costs $30
less.

Nonetheless, until it gets closed down many people will
roll the dice because they could care less about the
product as long as they get a return on their investment.

My companies are product focused and the purpose of
starting this thread was to find out what people wanted
in a responder service in case we may have missed an
item. So far it appears we have everything people want
and much more than they even imagined was possible.

If anyone would like to put forward other points that they
consider important I am very keen to hear them.

Regards,
Adrian Elman


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.1)=============
From:Subi
Subject:Short URL

Dear Cindy.

Most of URL forwarding providers do not allow us to control meta tags. But
there is always exception. You can go to www.mydomain.com. It's free and
their services are great. There you can manage your meta tags (keywords,
title, description) and even you can create subdomains (and redirector as
well) plus email forwardings.

You will have to own your domain and use their nameservers in order to be
able to use their services. You may wish to register your own domain (3rd
level) for free from www.za.net (yourdomain.za.net/org) or from www.eu.org
(yourdomain.eu.org). These providers allow/require you to use external
nameservers for your new domains.

Hope this helps you a little bit.

Subi



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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.2)=============
From:Lee Klemetti
Subject:Short URL

Hi everyone in adland.

redirecting a website is easy, a small snippet of html code is all you need.

Here is all the code you will need.


<html>
<head>
   <meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="5;
URL=http://www.utahgrizzlies.com/">
   <title>Redirect Webpage</title>

</head>

This example came from a search of the web with Google.com  (redirect
websites)

Just copy it, and put your own URL in place of the one shown.  The 5 in
the code is the seconds to wait before redirecting.


You can also make a framed webpage that only has a very small header,
and the rest is the the website that you want.

Meta tage are easy to create, and should be installed on your website.
This helps search engines quantify your website.

Here is Search Engine Watch URL with excellent information on meta tags
and how to use them

http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/meta.html

I hope this helps.

Lee Clemet


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (5.1)=============
From:Laurie Rogers
Subject:Spam has me stumped

Personally, what has me stumped about spam is, how any of
the readers to this ezine can recommend ANY form of filtering
programs. Especially since 99.9% of them are ineffective, sure
they may prevent spam from getting through for a limited time,
but, the fact remains that all a spammer needs to do is send
more spam from another address. Are we being so ignorant
to think that spammers do not realize that some of the filtering
programs use "fake" bounce and invalid replies to them?

Come on, let's be real about this, they DO know this, after all
anti-spamware was first created by the king of spam, Sanford
Wallace. And not because he was sorry for what he did either,
it was all based on the almighty buck. These people don't care
about your spam problems - they want your MONEY, plain and
simple! And unfortunately, a lot of you out there are falling for
it, hook, line and sinker.


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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (1)=============
From:Andy Sparks
Subject:Oveture profits down, stock price is falling today.

Sorry if I am monopolizing the Digest this week but I would like to put my
two cents worth in about Overture.

I don't think I shared my recent frustration with Overture with the members
of the Digest but Overture wouldn't let me have a Key Word that was clearly
relevant to my offer.  I wasn't frustrated until I tried to go through their
appeal process to get the Key Word that I wanted.

I sell a real estate ebook and contained in the real estate ebook is a
sample real estate option agreement and a chapter about buying real estate
with an option.  The Key Word that I wanted was Real Estate Option. They
insisted that it was not relevant to my offer.

It wouldn't have been so bad but I did a search for real estate option on
Overture and the sites that the search returned had nothing to do with a
real estate option.

I became convinced that Overture was only interested in sucking cash from my
account (not that I spent much) and couldn't care less if I was profitable.

I couldn't understand how a business that relies upon the success of it's
advertisers could stop caring about it's advertiser's profits and not expect
negative consequences.

I was watching on of the business channels today and they reported
Overture's profits were down and the stock was falling. I am certain that my
$20 a month didn't make any difference but it appears that I am not the only
one.

thanks for letting me vent.

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=====================Site Review Request  (1)===============
From:David Weed
Subject: http://www.logonfl.com/welcome

Please review and comment, I am especially concerned with typos and
grammatical errors.


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=====================Site Review Request  (2)===============
From:Rikie
Subject: http://rikies-biz.com

Hi Bogdan et al,
I'm looking for an honest 'cut to the quick' site review preferably with
some constructive suggestions as to how I can improve my 'image' online.
Either in this publication or direct to me at rikie@rikies-biz.com .
Yes Robert Lee, your comments are most welcome also - I can take you style,
in fact I appreciate it :-)
I would also REALLY appreciate some 'how-YOU-find-it" comments from as yet
unheard from subscribers and newbies as YOU are a big part of my target
market.
Thanks all
Rikie


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=====================Site Review Response  (1)===============
From:April Waters
Subject: http://www.valudealz.com

I am not using this as a ploy to get visitors but I am running
into a problem and this is the only place I can ever get any
CORRECT answers.

I posted my site for a web site review a couple of weeks ago
and thank you to the ones who replied, I took note.

My problem now is I am having customers emailing me saying the
shopping cart is not working for them. I have many with no
problems. What I need is someone who uses NetScape to go to the
site and do a test order to see if the shopping cart works.

Just put test in all the areas and go through the process and
see if you get an error message. I think it is netscape users
but I am not sure. I use IE5.0 and it works fine.

If someone would do that for me or tell me if there is a way to
check it myself to see what it looks like I would be so
grateful. This is my busy season and I do not want to be
loosing sales.  You can post it or just email me personally.

Thanks in advance for anyone's help

April Waters

http://www.valudealz.com

valudealz@email.com

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=====================Site Review Response  (2)===============
From:John Olson
Subject: http://www.foraffiliaterewards.com

Richard,

I applaud you in giving this a try. Give yourself a big pat on the back. Now
let's think about what you have built here. You have a lot of work ahead of
you.

Richard, first off, cantering everything on the page is bad form. It tells
the viewer this is a home made site. Most of the banners or pictures did not
load when I viewed the site.  Not sure what the problem was there. I guess
by the text you have pictures of yourself and your wife Peggy. I couldn't
see them.

But tell us more about you. Who you are, how did you come to build this site
and maybe how you are doing with the programs you are offering.

Don't underline things, it makes people think it's a link when it isn't.

On the iPowerWeb Hosting section, you have the whole last part of the text
as a link. Not a good thing to do. I think you only want the "Click Here" to
be a link.

Decide what the most important thing is about your site. What is it that you
want people to do when they get there? I don't think the Web Hosting is what
you want to promote the most, or is it?

Having a Website like you have begs for you to tell us a story. Entertain us
with something. Tell us why we should bother coming back. Right now you just
have a site to set off some affiliate links. But you don't tell us much
else. Why should we stay there?

You have lived 65 years. Let us in on those 65 years. Tell us something
about yourself and what you have been doing for those 65 years. Help us get
to know you and maybe we will want to buy something from you. I guess I am
searching for a theme for your site. Something you can tie it all together
with.

With the domain name, foraffiliaterewards I guess you need to reward us with
something more then you have here. Try to come up with some life stories
that tie into affiliates or making money. I don't know, I am just grasping
at straws here trying to help you out.

Maybe it's best to go back to the drawing board and rethink this site.
Search around the Web for sites you like and think about what makes them
work. Why do you like them and then see what you can do with yours.

Also the "Next Page" link at the bottom doesn't work, so I don't know what
you had on it.

Hits do not make sales, sites that offer something we can't get anywhere
else do.

Good Luck Richard and keep at it.

John Olson


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=====================Site Review Response  (3)===============
From:John Olson
Subject: http://www.pondaray.com

Darrell,

Very nice site at first look and it's hard to come up with things to say
about it. But I will, it's what I do.

Just a suggestion, but the brown color is not that appealing. For an
environmental site, I would think a nice green would be better.

You have a block of text on a lot of the pages that talks about the
different funds. On some of the back pages you put in a space between the
headings and the text above. This looks much better then the way it is all
one block on most of the pages where you have it. Also, it gets old fast if
it's on to many pages. Maybe think of something else to say or say it a
different way.

On some of the pages, you have a set of navigation links on the bottom, but
not on others. Why? You should have those links on the bottom of all the
pages.

This is just a thought, but on the home page you have a nice picture that
you feature through out the site. That's great, but I think on the Home
page, the text describing this picture should be on the side of the picture,
not the bottom. It would be different if the picture were wider. But as it
is, there is all this white space on the right side of the picture. I would
move the text there.

Also I kept wondering about you and where you are in the world. And what and
where did the name Pondaray come from. It's interesting and I think people
would like to know where it comes from.

And on the "About Us" page you have the same set of text saying the same
thing again. Please think of something else, just to be different. As I have
said before in most of my reviews, tell us about you, where you are and
stuff. Also, I think the text could be a little more personal. It reads like
a museum place card right now.

One last thing, it might be nice to have some way to see what page we are on
in the main navigation links on the left. I know the page title is there,
but highlight or make the page link we are on Bolder or Bigger so we can
easily see which page we are on.

All in all, a very nice site. I think for the most part I am being picky,
but you wanted a review so I had to find something to write about.

Take care and good luck with it. You have some very nice things to offer.

John Olson


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=====================Site Review Response  (4)===============
From:Charles Green
Subject: http://www.tbart.net

Hi,

When reviewing Bob's tbart.net site, John Olsen mentioned how much of
an improvement it would be to reduce the load time.  And, I know the
same thing has been mentioned many times before.

One of the most obvious ways to reduce load time is to reduce the file
size of your images.  Cutting an image down from 20kb to 10kb mightn't
save a huge amount of time (depending on connection speed), but what
about ten 20kb files on the same page?  Time is "king" on the net and
people want information NOW, not in a minute's time...or longer.

I use two FREE online image crunches any time I want to reduce the
load time of my images.

The GIF Crunchier and JPEG Crunchier can be found at
http://www.nonilead.com/crunch  (I became an affiliate a few minutes
ago. see below) and they'll make a huge difference if you haven't yet
optimized your images.

Oh...I just visited the site to make sure I wasn't giving you
inaccurate information.  They've changed the way they do things.
There's a subscription (max. $6/mth) option now if you want to
"crunch" beyond about 30%.  So start at
http://www.nonilead.com/crunch   I've just become an affiliate.  You
can still crunch for free, but not quite as compressed as you once
could.

If anyone knows of any FREE online image optimizers, now would be a
good time to let us all know.

Hope the link helps a few of you.  A 30% reduction in image loading
time is better than what you're currently getting.  And, if I could
give you a work-around that may take a little time, it would be this.
Optimize to 30% and save the file.  Optimize that to 30% and save.
And, so on until you get down to the size you want, while still
maintain a suitable quality.

I know there are plenty of software programs to choose from that will
accomplish the same thing.  I just recall how useful it was to view
several optimized images together.  It gave me the ability to compare
the size and quality before choosing which one to save.  And, for six
bucks a month, I'd probably go with that option if I seriously wanted
to optimize more images.

Happy crunching,


Charles Green


P.S. - I just tested the GIF Cruncher on a 37327 byte file.  The image
looks good at 26% optimization and loads 3.2s faster according to the
site.  New image is 27607 bytes...and I'm going to upload it to our
site at http://www.survivaljuice.com and save our visitors a few
seconds.  Remember, this didn't cost a cent.


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=====================Site Review Response  (5)===============
From:Andy Sparks
Subject: http://www.foraffiliaterewards.com

Hi Richard;

Your site looks just like the first page I built to try to make some money
from affiliate programs.  The only thing that you have right is owning your
own domain. (You are one step ahead of me in that regard.  My first page was
a subdomain of an MLM company site.)

The first page I built was up for over two years and never made a sale.
Same deal as you, lookers but no takers.

The problem with Internet Marketing is that it looks easy.  Get a page, make
some links and get paid, No Problem.

If you are a retired carpenter, then build a web site (more than one page)
that talks about building a house, finish carpentry or whatever aspect of
carpentry that you know extremely well.

A multi-millionaire once told me to stick with what you know and that is the
best piece of business advice I ever received.

I will personally guarantee there are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions
of people interested in building a house or home repair. Build this site and
somewhere casually mention, they can get new home plans and provide an
affiliate link to a site that sells new home plans.  Somewhere else mention
something else that relates to the subject of the page they are currently
reading and provide a link.

Don't do a sales pitch, just like if you were talking to a young person who
is building a house on his own and you would say "Oh, You can find that type
of door at Joe's Door Store, down on Main St."  Make your links like that,
just casual.

I didn't make any money on the Internet until I began to follow Dr. Ken
Evoy's advice about making money with affiliate programs and getting traffic
from content.  You can take his affiliate master's course free at
http://www.sitesell.com/967andy.html  I have taken it three times and I
probably need to do it again. When I started doing what He said, I started
to get paid.

http://www.967andy.com is hosted with his sitebuildit program and I followed
his advice.  The first time someone called me on the telephone from one of
my pages and wanted advice about a house his son was buying, I knew that Dr.
Ken was right.

The first page I talked about earlier and the sites I have now have one
important difference, the first on never made a sale and the current ones
make sales on a regular basis.

Richard, you and anyone else that reads the Adland Digest are on the right
track, you are actively looking to improve and you are reading the best
newsletter I have ever found.

You can (if you want) do the same thing as I and go from a page full of
links that doesn't sell to an informational site that delivers good
information about a specific subject, that will make sales on a regular
basis.

Andy Sparks


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=====================Site Review Response  (6)===============
From:Andy Sparks
Subject: http://www.pondaray.com

I was hoping it was a site that was going to show me how to array my outdoor
pond.

I am not a web designer so I don't know much about the technical side of how
your site is or should be built.  I am a sales guy and your site does not
contain anything remotely resembling a sales letter.

I didn't spend much time on your site because although I think it is
wonderful that you have donated money to all those organizations, I (like
any other visitor to your site) wanted to know what your site is about and
what is in it for me?

Your site tells me many things that I may or may not care about.  You should
be asking me questions or telling me a story to get me involved in your
site.

When a visitor arrives at your site, you only have a few seconds to get
their attention before they are gone.  There is a pretty good chance, that
even if I was interested in your products, I probably wouldn't stay long
enough to realize I wanted to buy something.

Your site looks fine but it is just another of millions of other sites with
something for sale and the average visitor is not going to stick around.

You have to get your visitors emotionally involved ( or at least mildly
interested) in what you are about before they are going to part with their
money.

I will give you an example, instead of having a long and dry paragraph
telling me that you gave money to some college to help with their Native
American Studies, You should ask me if I am concerned about the plight of
the Native Americans and then quickly and in short paragraphs tell me what
you are doing to help.

I noticed that your Mt. Everest poster shows the routes taken up the
mountain.  If your poster also tells of the ill-fated expeditions, you
should mention those.  I know that it is not a positive reflection on
society but people are really interested in where somebody died or became
injured.

I am not suggesting that you become a ghoul.  Take a little higher ground
and instead of commemorating the summit of Mt Everest, preserve the memory
of the brave souls who risked everything in a great adventure.  There is a
reason the evening television news shows the car wreck before the story
about someone doing a good deed.  If I saw a poster that showed where
everybody died on Everest, I would be tempted to buy it.  A poster with that
information would be something that guests would look at and talk about.  It
would also be something interesting to hang in a waiting room of a business
or doctor's office.

Okay, ask some questions or tell me a story to slow me down enough so I can
realize I want your things.  Write smaller paragraphs, they are easier to
read on the computer screen and pack more punch.  Unless you can get my
attention and or my emotions, you are not going to get any of my cash.

Andy Sparks


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