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C o n t i n u i n g   D i s c u s s i o n s (9)
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1.Spam Cop
~John Colanzi
~Tom Falco

2.I have not had a hit at all!!!! http://www.havenquestretreats.com
~Rebecca Prescott
~Andy Sparks
~Amalia
~Judith Tramayne-Barth
~Donna Knight
~John Olson
~Steve Pronger
~Robert Lee

3.Spam problems
~Amalia Sotiriadou
~Robert A. Moser
~Steve Hartung
~Dagmar Rakos

4.Oveture profits down, stock price is falling today.
~Andy Sparks

5.Alexa toolbar
~Laurence Lowne

6.I have not received any visitors
~Seqkat

7.GMT
~Judie

8."Money Games" and moral responsibility
~John Olson

9.Close the sale
~John Olson


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1.William Jaroske
~The Major Damage hype Causes

2.Laurence Lowne
~Juvio - what can people tell me about this?

3.Harvey Segal
~The first ever book about Ad Tracking

4.Shannon Amos
~Newsletter/ Ezine

5.Robert Price
~Fast Growing Links Trader

6.alanha
~IE6 operation

7.Alain Prud'Homme, n.d.
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8.Andy Sparks
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=================Traffic for your site=====================
From:Robert Lee

Hi All,

This has to be a favorite topic, so many opinions, so many ideas, so many sales
tactics.

You have to work hard for your traffic, even spend money if it works for you.
Too many readers of this column cannot use effectively the tools that are
available for you to increase your site traffic. Many such tools and advice you
can find for free. It just takes work to read through all of the hype to find
something that really and honestly works. Beware the recommendation without
example. The affiliate promotion that the affiliate has never used or tried the
product or program.

Your first goal has to be creating content so that the traffic you are begging
for actually has somewhere to go. There is no point in worrying one bit about
your meta tags, keywords and descriptions if all you are doing is reselling
stuff through banners and "copy and paste" recommendation text. A web site that
has 5 or 10 pages will not see the same type of traffic that a 100 or 500 page
web site receives. And if you tell me that that's all you need, 5 pages of
words.. Then I have to ask, how well do you know your product? Your business?
Your audience?

Build up your link pages. take the time to find well-placed and compatible sites
and request a link trade with them. Monitor who sends you traffic, see where
they link and follow their tactics.

Prepare your keyword list and don't stop until you have 100 or 200 words and
phrases. I hear too often about how hard it is to get top listings for keywords.
Just think, which exact keywords are you trying for? Maybe you can get a better
response if you target the keywords that a dozen people search for in a day
rather than 1 million people. And multiply that dozen hit keyword by a hundred
words. you'll see a great increase in traffic without a lot of your competition
crowding your search results.

Then use that same list as your PPC keywords list. You'll find your cost per
click very low, rather than bidding on the highly sought after and high priced
words. For every $1.00 per click keyword you can get twenty 0.05 clicks on
equally targeted (if not better) keywords.

I have found a way to earn $4.00 for every $1.00 spent on PPC advertising.
That's a great return, wouldn't you say? But it cost plenty to get there. it
didn't just fall into my lap.  You have to have a plan. You have to have the
right product or program. You have to sell the right item to the audience that
is most receptive to it.

I found a way to buy a domain ($8.95 per year), have it hosted for free ($0.00)
and sell products that I have no overhead for, no inventory, I don't even take
the sales, I'm just paid a commission based on the sales that come through my
web site. I spend $50.00 a month advertising. I generate about $200.00 a month
in sales and every 2 months sell one of the big products that pays me $500.00.
And this is just a small portion of my monthly income.

You could do this too. Are you ready to work for it? Stop crying.

Start your real online marketing life right now.

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.1)=============
From:John Colanzi
Subject:Spam Cop

Laurie,

You've hit the nail on the head. It'd been a little while,
but I should be due for a little notice from Julio Hate.

What some marketers fail to realize is Julio's software is
not only set up to turn in the emailer with no profit, anyone
can also choose to have every link and email address in the
email turned in.

What does that mean?

As a ezine writer any time an ezine is turned in that runs one
of my articles, I get turned in also. That's why for hosting and
other my listserv I use other marketers who know the methods
of Mr. Hate.

If you like to advertise, you're also open to be targeted if
your ad is in an ezine that gets turned in. For a little
while when the false complaints were heavier than they are now,
some programs advised members to avoid ezine advertising.
Luckily that has gone by the wayside.

In Mr. Hate's own words, he's willing to take down innocent
marketers to promote his agenda. He considers it collateral
damage.

Amy marketer who condones Mr. Hate's methods, is providing the
sword for his or her own beheading.

Sorry to be windy, but there are many in the anti spam movement
who feel all eCommerce is spam. They don't want you doing any
business.

Don't take my word for it, do your due diligence and start
reading what some of the nuts have to say.

As a side note, there are some anti spammers who feel it's ok to
subscribe to ezines for the sole purpose of forwarding the
welcome letter as spam.

Wishing You Success,
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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.2)=============
From:Tom Falco
Subject:Spam Cop

Laurie,

I don't report ezine owners.

[..      ..]

I report people who spam me daily with Viagra ads,
Mortgage deals, penis enlargements and other ridiculous
things.

{..    ..}

I don't report ezine editors. I report people who actually
spam our art department (the department email we use
to accept art for our printing jobs). I also report people who
spam our support line. Who signs up for ads and ezines
using their customer support line?

I also report people who spam our article submission
email address. Why would we want ads or trash sent
to our article submission email address?

All of those addresses were obviously harvested from
our ezine email list. It is there to accommodate our
readers, not for spammers to harvest from.

Whenever we set up a Yahoo Groups account, that
is spammed too. How do I know? Because all the
spam starts with my Yahoo Groups handle not used
anywhere else on the internet.

Try getting your facts straight.

Tom Falco

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.1)=============
From:Rebecca Prescott
Subject:I have not had a hit at all!!!! http://www.havenquestretreats.com

Hi Sarah,

I would redesign your website on the basis that direct marketing is
"salesmanship in print" - or for the web, salesmanship in cyberspace. I would be
including an information packed sales letter on the first page my visitors see
that includes all the BENEFITS to them of what you offer, with all the other
elements that go into great sales copy. You have to remember to give people a
reason to check out your site and your products - many people will not follow a
link to something else simply because they're inundated with so much
information - so tell them why they should check things out. And make it easy
for people - don't get them to follow link after link with no info. Its time
consuming and annoying. Convince us! You could create a sales page for each of
your products  and have some great content on your main page with links to those
pages (in text links work well). To learn how to write great sales copy, chech
out Bob Bly's products, or if you don't have time to go through all that
yourself, Marlon Saunders has a software pr oduct that will write the sales
letter for you. Its pretty inexpensive when you consider what a good sales
letter can do for you: http://www.pushbuttonletters.com/cgibin/t.cgi/208524

By the way, when the keyword density is correct, it will help with your search
engine ranking. Which means more visitors!! And hopefully more sales (once you
make it easier for visitors to learn about your products and what's in it for
them!).

Another thing is to add an entry pop up to your page that will subscribe people
to your newsletter - the fortune is in the follow  up, as they say!! You should
offer them a bonus for their subscribing - something that relates to your target
market, something that solves a problem they have, or anything that they
genuinely really want. Information products are good - basically anything that
won't represent a cost to you in the delivery etc, but is still good value for
them.

So, good luck!

Rebecca Prescott


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.2)=============
From:Andy Sparks
Subject:I have not had a hit at all!!!! http://www.havenquestretreats.com

Sarah, I don't even know where to start.

Your newsletter page and services page did not display.  Your products page
displays nicely but there is not a single reason on your site for anyone to make
a purchase.

Your about us page doesn't say anything about you.

There are no pictures of the retreat, the rooms, or the surrounding area.  I
don't know if I would be staying under a tree, in a tent or a roach motel.

You say that I can get in touch will Shamans but there are no pictures and you
don't tell me why I would want to get in touch with a Shaman.

You need Dr. Ken Evoy's help. http://www.sitesell.com/967andy.html Take some of
his free training and you will realize why your site doesn't sell.

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.3)=============
From:Amalia
Subject:I have not had a hit at all!!!! http://www.havenquestretreats.com

Sarah,

You just had a hit... me! You need a major rehaul of your site. In the index
page, you have the html of the banner exchange showing instead of the banner.
Your products have nothing to do with what you say your site is about - a
peaceful retreat, etc. Your Services page loads blank.
You have no hit counter that I could see anyway, so how can you know if you are
getting hits or not?
AFTER the rehaul, you will have to carefully consider how and where you will
promote your site.

Amalia


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.4)=============
From:Judith Tramayne-Barth
Subject:I have not had a hit at all!!!! http://www.havenquestretreats.com

Sarah,

You asked for help so I am going to be very blunt.  Quite
frankly, you are doing most everything wrong from a design
standpoint on your website.

Your first page is boring and does not make me want to go
further into your site.  Had you not asked for help, I would
have clicked off.

When I looked at your source code, I saw nothing search engines
could grab onto and list.  This means, you will get very few
visitors which equates to no sales and losing money each month.

I could go into a long post but I would rather give you my
articles section on my website where I have tried to help
others in your same position.  I put over 41 articles up at:

http://www.agoodread.com/articledirectory.html

and in my free ebook section you can download a free book with
60 more articles.  Each are filled with extremely useful
information.

Why did I do this?  Because I started out knowing absolutely
nothing about marketing, web site design, etc. and spent 12 to
16 hours a day, 7 days a week learning how to improve my site.
Since I am a firm believer in "sharing is the key to all our
success," I didn't want other people to have to expend this
same effort.

Now you can have the best products in the world but if nobody
can see them within the first two pages, they won't go further.
You've tried to be user friendly by putting up links :-) but
you are shooting your self in the foot.  For Instance, I
clicked on products on your menu and had to go through 3 or 4
links to get to a picture and price of the product.

You could alleviate all this clicking by having your small
thumbnails pictures be on your second page like I do at:

http://www.agoodread.com/bookstore.html

This allows your visitor to see what your products are at a
glance.  If they are interested, they will click further.

On your products page, you just give price and facts.  I can go
to Wal-Mart and physically pick up products and read the
benefits on the packaging.  On a website I can't so you have to
tell me "why your product" is better than what I can buy in a
brick and mortar store.

I'm not trying to be mean here as I truly know how you feel --
had the same feeling 4 years ago.  But your site needs to be
revamped for ease to the customer and just as importantly, so
search engine robots can crawl your site and list what you have
to offer.

Each of your pages has to be a mini-site as people don't just
enter your front door when they use a search engine.

Also, when I clicked on "Services" in your top menu -- nothing
showed up except a white page that had six boxes with little
red Xs.  Again I checked your source code and you don't even
tell your browser what type of HTML you are using, there was no
beginning "head" or "body" codes on the page.

So before you get upset about no buyers, put your ducks in a
row (meaning design your website better) and then let the rest
of the world know you are ready to do business.

Judith Tramayne-Barth


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.5)=============
From:Donna Knight
Subject:I have not had a hit at all!!!! http://www.havenquestretreats.com

Before I even looked at your site, my first question was where are you
advertising?
Once I looked at your site, the first question didn't matter. Your website needs
fixing or else getting traffic to it won't do you any good.
Regarding tracking visitors, when you log into your hosting account, do you see
a link to logs? Visitor logs will tell you if anyone is visiting. Otherwise you
can get a free hit tracker from http://www.extreme-dm.com .

1) Some of your front page links don't work. The banner code on the bottom of
the page is not pasted correctly. No meta tags (deadly!).
2) The contact information on the front page should be on your "contact" or
"about us" page.
3) I can't tell what your site is about. The first couple of sentences on your
front page should tell the visitor what the purpose of your website is. What
does a retreat have to do with the products you sell? There should be more
information about the retreat. I do think your design is okay and you offer
decent products, but it will be very important for a site selling products to
gain the visitor's trust.
4) Your "About us" page needs to tell what your business is about. Does your
business have any history or success to brag about? Do you? Why are you using a
Yahoo email address? You should use your domain email address, if possible.
5) What exactly is your newsletter going to tell me?
6) How are you advertising? My recommendations: a) You could start with traffic
exchanges if you have a $0 advertising budget, although this is not the best
quality traffic. My company does get sales from traffic exchanges, but we sell
advertising services so your success may vary. Try some of the traffic exchanges
at  10000hits.net. b) Learn internet marketing from the best, such as Terry
Dean, Mark Joyner, Corey Rudl, Sitesell.com and others. c) Subscribe to
well-known mailing lists that teach you how to optimize your website for the
search engines, such as WebPosition.com. To keep this short, I'm not listing
links for all these resources because if you search on Google.com, you will find
links to their website where you can subscribe to their newsletters.

I'm always surprised by how many people put up a website with the philosophy "If
you build it, they will come."
Not only does this philosophy not work for offline businesses but it is deadly
on the internet.
If you build it properly and market it well, they will come. At this point you
haven't achieved either goal yet but keep that in mind.

Recap: First fix your website, then advertise. Good luck to you!

Donna Knight



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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.6)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:I have not had a hit at all!!!! http://www.havenquestretreats.com

Sarah,

Well, I can see that there are some Real problems with the site it's self. But
as to how you can tell if anyone is going to your site, one way would be to
check with your hosts control panel. There should be some tracking information
there. Another thing to do would be to get a traffic counter, from someone like
Site Meter. You don't have to show a visitor number, just by placing the code on
your pages you will be able to tell how often your site is visited and what
pages they looked at and how long they stayed. It's free to use, though they do
offer more stats with a paid upgrade.

But Sarah, you have No Meta Tags on your site. Some of your pages don't open on
to anything. Some of the product pages have no products on them. And many of the
others take Way to Long to Load. Your Home page tells me next to nothing about
who you are and what the site is all about. You have some kind of banner HTML
code on the bottom of the page which is just that, HTML code.

I clicked over to the "About us" page and was presented with a NEW background
and almost nothing else.

The "Services" page loaded next to nothing. The "Newsletter" page the same.

Sarah, this site needs Help and a Lot of Work. Until it's more then friendly to
it's visitors, I wouldn't expect to sell much from it. I wouldn't expect much of
anything from it.

And you didn't bother to tell us how you have been promoting it. Or if you've
been promoting it.

Good luck Sarah,

John Olson

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.7)=============
From:Steve Pronger
Subject:I have not had a hit at all!!!! http://www.havenquestretreats.com

Hi Sarah,

Building a web site, getting traffic to it, and getting people to buy from it,
isn't as easy as many people imagine it to be. You've made the first step, which
is great, but now there is work to be done. Here are my suggestions:

Your site needs to look professional before people will buy from it. If it
appears amateurish your visitors will not feel they can trust you enough to do
business with you. The home page has a non-functioning banner ad - all I see is
the code. On the Services page I saw nothing but broken links to image files.
These are basic things that need to be fixed before you launch your site.

But the main problem I see, and it's a very common one, is your site has no
clear definition or purpose. After reading your home page I still had no idea
what your site was about. What's in it for me? What problem are you going to
solve? How are you, or your products, going to make my life better? Why should I
do business with you? What are the BENEFITS? Think about what your biggest
benefit is and hit me with it right off the bat. You have seconds to grab my
attention, or I'm out of there! These things are fundamental, but often
overlooked. Let me take you through your home page (and my reactions):

"Feel free to browse through our site"
Why do I want to? What will I see?

"Our products are top quality"
What products?

"Ordering is easy"
So is Amazon. Why should I do business with you?

"You can learn about our retreat"
What retreat? Why do I want to learn about it?

"Make reservations to stay at the retreat for a unique experience"
As above. I couldn't find any way to make a reservation if I wanted to. But why
would I want to?

After addressing these issues you will need to look at getting targeted traffic
to your site. But that's a whole other story. Get yourself a copy of Ken Evoy's
Make Your Site Sell. You can download a free trial version off my site. Feel
free to contact me directly Sarah. Good luck.

Steve Pronger


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.8)=============
From:Robert Lee
Subject:I have not had a hit at all!!!! http://www.havenquestretreats.com

Hi Sarah,

The first thing I ask myself when I arrive at your front page is:
"What am I seeing?"
I am seeing nothing. Nothing to tell me what your site, business or product is.
Nothing at all.
If you are buying advertising and using this main page as your landing page,
it's no wonder that you have no sales. I'd think that most of your visitors are
so overwhelmed that they leave right away.

You need to have a product on your main page IN A BIG WAY.
It takes 3 clicks before I found anything you are selling. 3 CLICKS

I should have been assaulted by something on your main page.

But I was assaulted by these colors:
http://www.havenquestretreats.com/Womens'%20Apparel.html
OUCH!

And what is with that font type?
http://www.havenquestretreats.com/about%20us.html
My goodness. do yourself a favor and get inspired by Amazon.com.

Have you ever seen their site? Would you like to have their sales? Sure you
would. so why does your web site look like it was created by a high schooler?

You have an integrated cart with your products.. Those pages should be the same
as your website pages. or vice versa.

http://www.havenquestretreats.com/services.html
Nothing showed up here. No text, no pictures, nothing.
No wonder you have no sales.

Quote: Make Reservations to stay at the retreat for a unique
End quote

Where??
Where can I make these reservations? And what exactly am I reserving?

http://www.havenquestretreats.com/newsletter.html
Even your newsletter page needs a help. And here, I assume, all you are doing is
copying and pasting your newsletter. UGH.

Geesh, Sarah, I've seen thousands of sites. yours rates very low. It needs a
professional's touch badly.

Best of luck on your much needed makeover.

Robert Lee


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.1)=============
From:Amalia Sotiriadou
Subject:Spam problems

As owners of websites and/or Internet Marketers we are caught between the rock
and a hard place as far as the spam issue is concerned. We HAVE to get our
message out. I personally subscribe to over 500 safelists, several dozen
newsletters, own several FFA pages and generally use all the legitimate tools
available to receive that highly desired traffic to my sites. I am meticulous
about never using unsolicited mail or unsolicited any other means to reach my
goal. My reward for being so diligent? I have: 1. been accused of spam from
people that have forgotten they signed up. 2. lost one of my sites once from a
false accusation. 3. been receiving tons of spam from other sites who have
"purchased" my email addresses from who knows where. 4. been getting endless
porno ads I can't get rid of. 5. Some of my accounts have been made the target
of hackers who send me on an average 5-6 viruses per day!
Not to mention that most email servers have taken it into their head to "deal"
with the spam issue, blocking even my legitimate mail from coming through, since
I MUST receive the email from my safelists - tons of it, but necessary.
What is the solution? Frankly, I don't know. However, it is evident to me that
unless a satisfactory solution IS found to all these problems, Internet
Marketing might soon become extinct and labelled as "an early 21st Century
craze".

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From:Robert A. Moser
Subject:Spam problems

I agree on just deleting spam messages. I find the www.Hotmail.com
system works very well in handling spam. You can go into options and
hit the exclusive button for filtering junk. You can add people to
your safelist or address list you wish to get mail from and any others
you can review in your junk mail to see if there are any to save.
If not you just hit delete, very easy to maintain.

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.3)=============
From:Steve Hartung
Subject:Spam problems

Spam complaints. Ever had one? If you continue to market your business on the
internet, it will happen to you sooner or later. I weathered a nasty spam
complaint against me some 3 years ago. Still
bothers me.

However, what does not bother me is Spam in my email. I just delete it and
forget it. (is it possible that i just may have a life?) Actually,
here's why spam is a thing of the past in my mind.

I use a "permission-based marketing system" that everyone is moving to because
you cannot spam.
And this system makes my business look legitimate and far-above the overload
of spam. Or anyone else who markets on the internet for that matter.

The shift is starting to take place.
"Silent" [text-only] email marketing programs no longer work! People are
hopping on the new "audio" technology bandwagon. TALKING Email is where its at
folks. The sooner you all start ignoring the spam issue, the faster the spam
issue will start ignoring you.

Steve Hartung


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.4)=============
From:Dagmar Rakos
Subject:Spam problems


Fact #1:
Few weeks back my email spam suddenly shut up significantly to
one of my email addresses as some "good character" [let him fry
in flames of hell for as many centuries as many spams he sent!]
put it into yahoo carousel of spam lists.  Pardon me - supposedly
"Opt-in Safe lists" I never heard of. [A note to Cindy: I haven't
used this particular address for any subscriptions for at least
past 2 years, so No, I couldn't forget.]

Fact #2:
Using my Delete button [A little note to Andy: Yes, I Do have one
of these on all my computers, and I also figured out how  to use
them ;-)] took forever as I had to go carefully through all my
email postings sorting them one by one in order to determine what
is spam and what is not.

Fact #3.
I finally kicked myself to download and install Mailwasher
antispam software on my main computer, started using it
diligently, and voila: my spam decreased in a matter of days from
literally hundreds/day to a few/day!

Fact #4.
Mailwasher - especially the new lightening fast version 2 saves
me an incredible amount of time. Almost all of the spams I
preview is already pre-marked as a spam [reported for sure by
some busy bees of Internet world who obviously have nothing else
to do in their lives but reporting spams - God bless your little
souls taking this workload from me! ;-)], not to mention color
coded so I can glance very quickly over them, just to make sure
no innocent victims are included in my false bounce messages if
some rabid anti-spammer reported my favorite ezine I Know for
sure Never spams.

And then I just hit Process mail button and here we go: spammers
mail gets bounced back and also put into my own personal
blackmail list so I won't see their mail ever again - and the
rest goes to my regular mail accounts for me to deal with.

Very fast, simple and effective!

Fact #5:
And yes, I do agree that some spammers just change ISP or email
addresses, so what? By the time I preview it in my Mailwasher it
has been either pre-marked as a spam again, or I'll mark it, hit
the button and will never see any email from that particular
address ever again. No daily repeats like before.

So Spam? What spam?

Have fun!

Dagmar Rakos


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.1)=============
From:Andy Sparks
Subject:Oveture profits down, stock price is falling today.

James Jones wrote.

>From what I remember about Overture policy, you have to have the keyword on
>your website in order for it to be relevant.  Makes sense when you think about
>it: What's overture staff going to do?  Download your ebook to make sure it has
>something about options?  And then do that for everyone who appeals?  That is
>just not practical

I am not going to copy the entire web page to the newsletter but I mention
options in a paragraph on the page and the table of contents of my ebook is on
the same web page I submitted and two chapter headings are about options.

As you will see in the table of contents, I explain the most common Real Estate
Techniques, like No Money Down, Cash Back from the Closing, Options, Buying and
Selling with Owner Financing and some things you might not have heard.

3. Options, powerful buying & selling tools.

18. A sample Option Agreement

James. they don't have to download my ebook but they could at least read the
page as part of the appeals process.
I don't believe that a reasonable person would consider
http://www.967andy.com/ebook.html as an irrelevant search return for the key
word real estate option.

Thanks
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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (5.1)=============
From:Laurence Lowne
Subject:Alexa toolbar

Hi Guys and Gals

Looks a great idea, however, I am a little uncomfortable with Alexa, and I
quote from their TOS:

"Alexa's toolbar service collects and stores information about the web
pages you view, the data you enter in online forms and search fields, and,
with versions 5.0 and higher, the products you purchase online while using
the toolbar service. Although alexa does not attempt to analyze web usage
data to determine the identity of any alexa user, some information
collected by the toolbar service is personally identifiable. Alexa
aggregates and analyzes the information it collects to improve its service
and to prepare reports about aggregate web usage and shopping habits."

Basically what that means is they can gather information about my purchases
online, and do I not use a credit card online to make said purchases? They
even spell it out in their very first sentence about "... the data you
enter in online forms ....".
No thanks! I am not prepared to have a company have personal information
about me, especially where I have no control over how that information is
stored or used or who has future access to such information.
What do others think about the issue of online privacy, since I feel this
will become an even bigger issue as more and more people come online not
just  here in the UK and the USA, but globally as well?

Laurence Lowne

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Privacy is definitely an issue, but you have to sacrifice some
of it if you want to be ahead of the crowd. There is always
something for something.  No free lunch. Remember that when
you provide your card to the merchant, you are giving them
your private information and you have to do it in order to make
the purchase.

In the end the merchant is only at risk. Banks and customers
are covered by terms and conditions which merchant has
to accept.

If you want to use some free services, usually you are being
asked for some of your personal information which can
be used for demographical reasons.

If you are afraid that Alexa can see your private information
when you make a purchase, just click  View--> Toolbars
-->Alexa and turn it off. Use it when you need it and turn
it back on through the same path as above.

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (6.1)=============
From:Seqkat
Subject:I have not received any visitors

Reply to Unknown's, "I have not received any visitors" -

Submit yourself to search engines, and be sure to have meta tags with keywords
for what your site truly offers.

Advertise in ezines, many of them, and often!  Get your website's name known by
doing so.  Here's a great way to do so:
http://www.villageoftidbits.com/EliteRenewforTwo$.htm

Do include a signature line in ALL of your emails - so people can see your url,
and include a few words describing your site to peak their interest to go there.

If a brand new store opens - no one will know anything about it, unless they
advertise, and it is the same thing with websites.  How can we go to some place
we do not know exits.  Makes us know, so we will go!

God bless!

In His Joy,
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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (7.1)=============
From:Judie
Subject:GMT

In regards to Leslee getting a check for $35 from GMT it is real.
I know I got $35 at first and used there auto responder and got a
check then I look into it and then I upgraded for $199 and I got
$388 in about 6 weeks.  So, I have my money back and went on
there web site at www.getmovingtoday.com  or www.gmt101.com and
you have to use a sponsor Id and you can use this one 100144644.
You can make money on this.  And I didn't believe it at first.

And for Julie Frost statement.  I too made big bucks in MLM and I
did not say GMT was money game I was just commenting on someone
who did make this statement "being a money game" But GMT is not
MLM.  Everyone in the company is your downline or upline what
ever you want to call it.  So, if someone in another country and
you don't know them from adam and they sign up free (or buy this
autoresponder) you become part of there team and after 6 cycles
(which is about 6 weeks.)  You will get a check.  It is so easy
and the autoresponder is something people are using for their
other business or you can use it for personal use. Most people do
it free at first but they must remember they have to send out 100
e-mails a month and activate there autoresponder to show they are
really using it before they will get there $35 check.  But if you
upgrade you do not have to send out the 100 e-mails but you have
to activate it.

It is true at first you wonder how they can do it.  But what
happens people get so excited about the money they receive doing
nothing they start telling others even though it may not benefit
them but they would like to see there family and friends make
money too.  You do get bonus if people do buy BUT it is not a
downline thing.  Like for example they have a campaign going
right now if you get 6 people to buy GMT autoresponder you will
get $220 extra every cycle which is about 6 weeks.

They have a wonderful form where everyone can become a part of
after signing up with GMT and they have people all over the world
doing this and it just started this April of this year.  This
form is for people who need questions answered in regards to the
company (GMT), to the autoresponder, there compensation plan, and
also all about web page design.  I really like it.  So, if you
have a question in regards to wanting information if your web
site needs help they are there to help you.

So, this is what I have to say about GMT

Judie

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (8.1)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:"Money Games" and moral responsibility

Julie,

I am in total agreement with you on the "In for free make a Ton of Cash" garbage
that always seems to be running around the Web. Not to mention the, pay for the
program and sit back and watch the checks roll in junk. People will get burned
with that kind of thing. To be fare, it's not always the programs fault,
sometimes it's the way it's being promoted. We all know of programs that have
been done almost to death by the idiots promoting them.

If you join something for Free and expect to make money in it, you are fooling
yourself. Just look at all the poor people who jump into SFI for free expecting
to get rich. Doesn't work that way. If you join something for free, somewhere
down the line, someone is going to have to Buy something because if they don't
the company can't pay anyone because they are not making any money.

And if it's one of those join free things that then offer a paid upgrade, what
do you think you are going to be doing with your life? You are going to be
begging those free members in your downline to upgrade so you can get paid. And
will you upgrade if no body else has? No, chances are you won't, so no body gets
paid. Except the smartie pants who started it in the first place.

If you join something for free, it had better offer a great product or service
or don't join. Always look at the product or service offered and plan on using
it, if that means paying for it, then pay for it or get out.

Everyone wants to get rich or make some extra cash but no body wants to do what
it takes to make that happen. They just expect it all to Come to them. They
should grow up and smell the roses. If you don't do it yourself it ain't going
to get done. If that means spending money, then spend money. If that means... I
was going to say, spending hours at Hit Exchanges or posting to Safelists, but
they aren't very effective for most people. Why? They don't stick with it. They
don't set aside the time everyday to do it.

If you join something for free, you can expect to have to use the service they
provide and build a heck of a downline in order to make anything more then
pocket change. I'm thinking of things like Paid to Reads.

And if you join something that says, "You don't have to promote," forget it
because if you want to make it, you WILL have to promote. And that's just the
way it is folks. If no one promotes it, the program will die. If only a few are
promoting then at some point they are going to get tired and give up.

I also don't know if GMT is a money game or not but I have my suspicions about
it. I don't think it will last. And I don't like what I am hearing from outside
the Web on this. People are not just joining for free, they are spending
hundreds of dollars to join at higher levels and spending more to get family
into it to. All expecting to make back Much more then they put in. Not to
mention, a lot of these people didn't know what an autoresponder was or why they
should have one or even if they needed one before they were introduced to this
thing. They are only joining for the Money. We all want to make money, but we
should not be joining something just for that reason alone.

And it's a really bad thing when someone says, "Well if it's a scam or gets shut
down, I got mine - So there!"

That is not someone I want to be in business with.

John Olson


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (9.1)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:Close the sale

Helen,

What bothers me most about what you are saying is the few people who tell you
that they joined something through you but aren't showing up under you. Not
knowing what programs you are promoting, it is hard to say what is going on.

Helen, one thing I might suggest is to get your own Website. That way, you can
control what you put on it and it won't look like all the Thousands of other
company Websites given out to all those other members. And spend a little money,
and I mean a very little money on getting your own Domain name. It doesn't cost
that much, really.

With your own site you can tell people who you are, and what you think of this
or that program. You can offer a way for them to contact you and ask questions.
You can link to whatever programs you are promoting and say what you think of
them. People feel better going into business with someone they know. Most
replicated Websites don't allow you do that. You are lucky if they list your
name and E-mail address.

Again, not knowing what programs you are promoting, you might want to offer
something people who are promoting other things need. In that way, you can build
a mailing list. And that is the Key to building relationships and building an
income online. A Mailing List. Have you ever thought about how all those Heavy
Hitters always seem to get a Ton of people to join with them and make money,
that is the Key right there, A Mailing List. Without that, most of them would be
in the same boat with the rest of us.

The other thing you might be doing wrong is promoting to the wrong people.
Depending on what it is you are promoting, you need to figure out who would want
what it is you have to offer? And Target them in your promotions. If you are in
something like Cognigen, you can offer your discounted Phone service to almost
anyone who has a phone. Not to mention all the other services Cognigen offers.

If you are promoting some kind of Health thing, then figure out how to reach
people in the market for what you offer.

Again, I don't know what you are into, so I am only guessing here.

But if there are really people who tell you they joined something through you
and they don't show up in your downline, then something is wrong or someone is
lying. Or they don't know who they joined through. They might even have joined
directly through the company if they typed your members URL wrong.

I would check into it further, and I wish you good luck in all you do.

John Olson


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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (1)=============
From:William Jaroske
Subject:The Major Damage hype Causes

The very best opportunities seem to be more scarce
than believed to be. Many will say they're a dime a
dozen. But depending how you look at it. Getting the
best value for your money should be more important
when thinking dollar wise.

Of course, involving yourself in hyped schemes to earn
a living will never pan out all the time.

Without looking for value and not using common sense
before moving foreword in any plan or idea causes more
money to be lost than made. When viewing specific
trends. Some may believe that it is a popular concept
with the numbers promoting it. They never consider
hype played a part with the high influx of sign ups
generated in a short time period.

Newcomers often think it's easy because they are told
that from the very start. They also get fooled by
sweet-n-sour sales pitches that some experts give.

Most won't even stress that there is actual work
involved. This can result in many people giving bad
sales presentations which leave serious prospects
unconvinced.

It all starts with talk of wealth and riches beyond
your dreams usually causing many to be conned or
scammed. That's how hype inflicts major damage today.

This means having whatever your promoting explained
properly in detail on what you will be doing, how to
go about it, where to best market it, who is going to
be the best promising prospect. And why they are in
business in the first place along discussing cost of
the investment.

The type of products and services plays important
roles and will make the difference on a survival stand
point. But if the cost is set too high. That may mean
slower growth of that business.

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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (2)=============
From:Laurence Lowne
Subject:Juvio - what can people tell me about this?

Hi All

I have been sent an email offering me the wonderful opportunity of getting
computer hardware and software problems solved for a fee over a telephone
line for $41-95 a month (Associate membership $7-00 per month plus $34-95
for technical support service). But you can get this help for FREE by
signing up three other people to use the service and suddenly becomes a MLM
with a forced matrix with that wonderful term spillover.

Two names have come up as being behind the scheme of things, namely Chris
Basconcillo and Paul Burg - anyone know them or their backgrounds, please?
Also the name of Brian Garvin has just kicked in as well, and that name
worries me, and I can't remember why?

More importantly though, is this company really qualified to offer such
support, and do you feel a membership fee plus monthly subscription is
value for money?

This looks too much like Retire Quickly and 21st Century Networks, which
offered subscription online learning for $34-95 a month.

Are there laws in the States about the level of subscriptions, since this
$34-95 has come up on more occasions than I care to remember or is just a
nice figure marketing wise?

Thanks

Laurence Lowne

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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (3)=============
From:Harvey Segal
Subject:The first ever book about Ad Tracking

Hello members,

I've now published the first - and only - book
about ad tracking, and all the numerous and
profitable ways you can use an ad tracker.

I've decided that, to start with at least, the
book will be free and the customization rights
will be free.


It's called

Ad Tracking SuperTips
==The Definitive Guide To Choosing, Using
==And Profiting From Ad Trackers

and it is now available at
http://www.supertips.com/cgi-bin/b/t.cgi?b1adbook_ad

That's a tracking Url of course.
Don't be put off by the length, it can
be shortened. Read the book to find out how

Regards
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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (4)=============
From:Shannon Amos
Subject:Newsletter/ Ezine

Could you advise me?  I wish to build rapport, and friendship with my list
users.
I own SDA Central Safelist, over at http://www.sdacentral.com  They are fairly
responsive members, but as you know.  Many of them are using auto submission and
rarely visit my site, so I have yet to capture them.  I would have the FULL
attenion of my own mailing list.  Please help me, by directing me to free
content, etc, anything to help me give them something of value to encourage them
to join my mailing list.

Kind Regards,
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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (5)=============
From:Robert Price
Subject:Fast Growing Links Trader

Hello,

We are an independent Northern Ireland based information and Internet advertiser
with a website designed for business or tourist users. Over the past year
we have developed a fairly large following, most courtesy of Links Trading.

Although our focus is on Northern Irish holidays plus Arts/Crafts/History
and Local Commerce, we want to establish ourselves as a Global Internet
Business (GIB), with thousands of links world-wide.

If you have a business that you think could benefit from links trading with
us please don't be shy, tell us about yourselves.

Our site address is http://www.honestitsnorthernireland.com

Best Wishes

Robert Price

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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (6)=============
From:alanha
Subject:IE6 operation

Hi Bogdan,



I'm using IE6 and getting good performance except - I have noticed that my
system is sending continuously while input is intermittent as expected. Since
Internet transmission protocols allow for fast input and slower output for very
good reasons, I am puzzled (and somewhat apprehensive) that someone is into my
system without my knowledge or agreement. I am using Webcelerator and AVG
antivirus which may be contributing to this. Can any of your readers make
helpful comment?



alanha


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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (7)=============
From:Alain Prud'Homme, n.d.
Subject:I need your opinion

Does anybody know if this deal is good?
I mean e-mail 75 million prospects every month!
Is it spam free? I mean they say it is 100% spam free but is it really spam
free?
Here is the address:

http://www.email2success.com

thanks for your oppinion,

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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (8)=============
From:Andy Sparks
Subject:Pricing an advertising service.

I am struggling with finding the proper price point for Snappyads.com classified
ads.  I have always leaned towards pricing as low as possible to make the
service affordable but I often see things sell that I believe to be expensive.

A good friend of mine says "The more you charge them, the more they appreciate
it."  I often wonder if there is any truth to that statement.  I know when you
price something to low, people will believe there is something wrong with it and
will be slow to buy.

In a recent issue of the Digest, I was amazed at the number of people that
admitted to paying $295 for a chance at a home assembly business opportunity.
If that many people admitted to spending the money, there are a larger number
that sent the money but wouldn't admit it in the Digest.

By the way, Thanks to all the people that told us they sent the money and gave
us their opinion of that opportunity.  There is no way to tell how many people
you helped by saving them $295 on an opportunity that is harder than it appears.
That is what makes the Digest great, the fact that people will share their
challenges and sincerely try to help other people.

Back on subject, I have been through the same pricing challenge with Your Real
Estate for Sale.com.  I started out at $50 for a real estate for sale ad and
$250 for a year of unlimited ads. Under this price model, if there were no
properties for sale in your city, I would give you a free ad.  The theory was
the site would quickly have an ad in every city.  Most of the people that
requested a free ad, never placed the ad.

So after spending way to much money on advertising, trying to give away ads that
people never placed, I lowered the price to $9.97 for a single ad and $59.97 for
an unlimited account.  I discontinued the offer of free advertising but included
a copy of my ebook, Secrets to Real Estate Wealth with the ad purchase.

This pricing with the free copy of my ebook is working better.  I sell the ebook
from 967andy.com and include a free real estate for sale ad on Your Real Estate
for Sale.com with that purchase so that my ebook buyers don't get the short end
of the deal.  The ebook usually out sells the real estate ads, but each are
increasing monthly.

So now I am on the same mission with Snappyads.com. I started with 10 ads for
$10 per month and after about 90 days, I changed to $2.99 per ad per month.
Yesterday I set the price at $7.97 for a month of unlimited ads and the free
affiliate program now pays 87% over ten levels.   The classified ads are really
good, you get 3 photos and a map if you need it.  I think the product that I am
offering is good and I will keep adjusting the price until I get it right.

If this $7.97 doesn't work out, I am taking it to $19.95  just like the TV
infomercials.  That will give the affiliates a bigger paycheck.  I don't really
care what the final price is, just as long as it is selling.

I would like the members of the Digest to go look at http://www.snappyads.com
and give me their opinion.  Is $7.97 so low that people won't trust me and
should I move the price up to $19.95?

Thanks
I am struggling with finding the proper price point for Snappyads.com classified
ads.  I have always leaned towards pricing as low as possible to make the
service affordable but I often see things sell that I believe to be expensive.

A good friend of mine says "The more you charge them, the more they appreciate
it."  I often wonder if there is any truth to that statement.  I know when you
price something to low, people will believe there is something wrong with it and
will be slow to buy.

In a recent issue of the Digest, I was amazed at the number of people that
admitted to paying $295 for a chance at a home assembly business opportunity.
If that many people admitted to spending the money, there are a larger number
that sent the money but wouldn't admit it in the Digest.

By the way, Thanks to all the people that told us they sent the money and gave
us their opinion of that opportunity.  There is no way to tell how many people
you helped by saving them $295 on an opportunity that is harder than it appears.
That is what makes the Digest great, the fact that people will share their
challenges and sincerely try to help other people.

Back on subject, I have been through the same pricing challenge with Your Real
Estate for Sale.com.  I started out at $50 for a real estate for sale ad and
$250 for a year of unlimited ads. Under this price model, if there were no
properties for sale in your city, I would give you a free ad.  The theory was
the site would quickly have an ad in every city.  Most of the people that
requested a free ad, never placed the ad.

So after spending way to much money on advertising, trying to give away ads that
people never placed, I lowered the price to $9.97 for a single ad and $59.97 for
an unlimited account.  I discontinued the offer of free advertising but included
a copy of my ebook, Secrets to Real Estate Wealth with the ad purchase.

This pricing with the free copy of my ebook is working better.  I sell the ebook
from 967andy.com and include a free real estate for sale ad on Your Real Estate
for Sale.com with that purchase so that my ebook buyers don't get the short end
of the deal.  The ebook usually out sells the real estate ads, but each are
increasing monthly.

So now I am on the same mission with Snappyads.com. I started with 10 ads for
$10 per month and after about 90 days, I changed to $2.99 per ad per month.
Yesterday I set the price at $7.97 for a month of unlimited ads and the free
affiliate program now pays 87% over ten levels.   The classified ads are really
good, you get 3 photos and a map if you need it.  I think the product that I am
offering is good and I will keep adjusting the price until I get it right.

If this $7.97 doesn't work out, I am taking it to $19.95  just like the TV
infomercials.  That will give the affiliates a bigger paycheck.  I don't really
care what the final price is, just as long as it is selling.

I would like the members of the Digest to go look at http://www.snappyads.com
and give me their opinion.  Is $7.97 so low that people won't trust me and
should I move the price up to $19.95?

Thanks
Andy Sparks

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=====================Site Review Request  (1)===============
From:Rolando Sifuentes
Subject: http://roland175.tripod.com/

Dear Mr Bogdan:

Greetings!

I have built my first web site and I would like you to review it because I am
not quite sure if it is ready for promoting.

Ill start promoting the site after your kind comments.  Please give more
importance to the content in your comments  - you are the best on e-business, I
know.

http://roland175.tripod.com/

Thank you in advance for your help.

Regards,

Rolando Sifuentes



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=====================Site Review Response  (1)===============
From:Jan550
Subject: http://www.reachingyourdreams.com

I went to your site and while the main page loaded I got overwhelmed with full
page pop-ups.  I really left fast as that is a pet peeve of mine. However, I may
not be the best judge as I have seen some top rated search engine sites
(Hopefully they pay alot for their rating!)  that have bounced me from site to
site for ages as I could never get out of the loop without signing off the
computer.  The large pop-ups interfere with reading about the base page.  Hope
this helps,


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=====================Site Review Response  (2)===============
From:Mandyland Mall
Subject: http://www.mandyland.biz/

Thank you to John Olson for taking a look at my site.  I had no idea that
the flash directory did not work on some browsers.  I have changed my site
and hopefully, you will be able to review it now.  Thank you again for
pointing out that major problem.  No more flash for me, for now.
K. Le Roy Pearcy

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=====================Site Review Response  (3)===============
From:John Olson
Subject:  http://www.the-net-review.com

Tammie,

You have a great start on what I hope is a very profitable Website. I won't go
into too many thing here because as you say, it's still a work in progress. But
we have to start somewhere so....

Don't center your text. It makes it harder to read and looks unprofessional.
Line it up on the left like a book and leave it that way.

Have your navigation links in the same place on every page. And it's not a bad
idea to place them along the bottom of every page too. I hate having to back up
to get to the home page so I can look at something else. So will your visitors.

When you branch out with pages about different programs, make sure to have a new
little navigation set so we can move from one program and your thoughts on it to
the next. It will make it much easier for us to get around.

And tell us who you are, and what would make us believe the things you are going
to tell us about the programs you list.

And that is all I am going to say for now. Come back when you have done some
more work and ask again. I think you have a very good idea for your site and I
wish you well. You might also think about a "Links" pages. If you do, let me
know and I will gladly exchange links with you.

Take care and nice start.

John Olson


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=====================Site Review Response  (4)===============
From:John Olson
Subject: http://www.playthelotto.co.uk

Derek,

You asked:

<Can I have your views on www.playthelotto.co.uk
<and www.paid4lotto.co.uk and
<which one you think will do best

I am not going to go into this to much, but I like the www.paid4lotto.co.uk best
if given a choice. The first one looks to cheap with all the colors. You might
tell us who you are though. That's the nice thing about having doorway pages,
you can tell us about yourself.

I am sure someone will have more comments about what you have done.

I wish you luck with your doorway pages.

John Olson

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=====================Site Review Response  (5)===============
From:John Olson
Subject: http://www.reachingyourdreams.com

Julie,

Nice clean site and as someone who also offers a Marketing course I like what
you have done. But I have one little problem with what you are offering. You say
we can get started in less then an hour and that we can learn how to start an
Internet Business in 7 days.

But your Training Course is 70 DAYS!

Is this a typo?

And don't underline words it makes us think they are links and we waste time
moving our little mouses over them to see if they are.

You also might want to mention something about not selling or giving away our
information and that we can unsubscribe at anytime. And offer to answer any
questions we might have with an E-mail link direct to you. And unless this is
some kind of prototype for a replicated site, tell us your name and a little
about yourself. We like to know who we are dealing with.

Generally I don't like capture sites like this, even though I have used them.
You might want to hint at more of what we are going to learn in your training
course. Give us a taste of what the step by step system is. Wet our appetites.

I wish you luck,

John Olson


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=====================Site Review Response  (6)===============
From:Robert Lee
Subject: http://www.the-net-review.com

From:Tammie Allen
I am still daily amazed at all there is to discover on the Internet. It is 2:30
in the morning where I am, and I just read my first issue of The Adland Digest.
I love the openness and honesty!

[LOL
Rob smells blood in the water]

Hi Tammie, As I am one to never pass up on the opportunity to critique a fellow
net entrepreneur, I did visit your site.

Quote from your home page:
Home Businesses, Website Creation, Just For Fun-Real Reviews
For Real People
End Quote
You sure are biting off a large part of the web aren't you? Fun web sites,
business web sites, all being reviewed by a newbie. Oh boy, I can hardly wait.
as a matter of fact, why am I waiting? You should have on your homepage the
beginning of one(or more) of your reviews. Just like a lead-in paragraph or two,
something to raise my level or curiosity. Whet the appetite, if you like.

My real advice for you is this: review honestly only the programs/products that
you have personally used.
Start your website with one product at a time. Have these pages as your layout:

Home page (which includes a paragraph or 2 about your current review)
About Us Page - talk about what your web site does and why we should trust you
Links page - everyone needs one, just be sure to be selective about your links,
this is a place to trade, not sell.
Business product reviews
Fun website reviews
Commentary
Contact

There really is no point in going on about your design, page layout, or choice
of topics. Use your head, you seem to have one.

If you want more, see the archives and what I've said about some other sites.
http://www.adlandpro.com/archives/

I will willingly answer any of your questions.

Now, that wasn't so bad, was it?

Robert Lee


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