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Word from Publisher
1.6 Simple Joint Venture Marketing Formulas!
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C o n t i n u i n g   D i s c u s s i o n s (2)
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1.Mark Joyner: Protected by my Inexperience
~Doug Lindahl
~Charles Green
~Dan Mage

2.E-books all over the net
~Devasish Gupta


N e w     P o s t s  (1)
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1.Paul Skinner
~TWO unique software I use to save hours of logging


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Site Review Responses   (4)
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1.Anita Cohen-Williams
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2.Anita Cohen-Williams
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3.Anita Cohen-Williams
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4.Jeff Foster
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G u e s t   A r t i c l e    (1)
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1.Top 3 Reasons Why Web Marketers Fail & What You Can Do To Avoid Them
By Doug West

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=================6 Simple Joint Venture Marketing Formulas!=====================
From:Larry Dotson

1) Trade A Percentage Of Your Sales For An Ad

You could ask e-zine publishers to run your ad in
return for a percentage of each sale. They could just
join your affiliate program. The offer is usually more
successful if your product is brand new.


2) Trade Any Ad For An E-zine Ad

You could trade any type of ad for an e-zine ad. It
could be a banner ad, classified ad, graphical ad,
links, etc. You may just have to give them extra ads
or incentives because people usually value e-zines
more than web site ads.


3) Trade An E-zine Article For An E-zine Article

You could ask an e-zine publisher to trade articles.
This would give you both new content to publish
and cross-promote each other's businesses in the
resource box (ad).


4) Trade A Discount For An E-zine Ad

You could offer the publisher's subscribers a discount
on your product in return for running your ad. Tell the
e-zine publisher this would help keep his subscribers
loyal.


5) Trade Consulting For An E-zine Ad

Are you an expert on a particular subject? Offer e-zine
publishers free consulting via e-mail or phone if, in
exchange, they run an ad for you. People will consider
this of huge value because consulting fees can be very
expensive.


6) Trade Signature Files With An E-zine Publisher

Offer to trade signature files with an e-zine publisher.
On every e-mail you send out, you'll include his or her
signature file/link underneath yours and vice versa. So
when the e-zine publisher sends out the e-zine, your
signature file/link (ad) would be included in it.


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.1)=============
From:Doug Lindahl
Subject:Mark Joyner: Protected by my Inexperience

Your inexperience in groups that run with the Lifeforce Product may be
keeping you from gaining all you can by being blinded by the Name Joyner.

Internet Marketers and Network Marketers are two different groups of
people. Internet marketers go for the Gold without the "burden" of
education. Network Marketers, are just that a network of marketers,
coaches, trainers, and people helping people. Networking is not a paint by
numbers game as Joyner, Chen, are playing with the help of the best
hypnotic writer ever, Joe Vitale, as they go, deeper and deeper into your
pockets and deposit the contents into their bank accounts. They also gain
more and more with Traffic Oasis and every other needed program out there.

Yes leads are needed for networking the right way, and Traffic oasis is
The Best Source (my opinion) but they also have the best plan for Mark,
and Mike to capitalize on.

There are several groups of EXPERIENCED NETWORKERS that are helping
hundreds and hundreds of people earn 5 figures monthly, and you don't have
to take any Quizzes! They are all willing to teach you one on one, address
your weakness and strengths, and guide you to success.

That is if your up for, setting your goals, writing down what it is you
really want and WORK for it.

Will Joyner, Chen, and Vitale call you every week personally? I really do
not think so.


Doug Lindahl


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.2)=============
From:Charles Green
Subject:Mark Joyner: Protected by my Inexperience

Cecilia Chung wrote:

> It is true that Life Force International have been around for 20 years a
> still carrying the same products but their market and audiences are not
> even close to fully saturated - so far they are only reaching 5
countries
> which mean more market would be developed. The key to be successful is
to
> catch the first wave and this seems, so far, like the first wave to me.


Cecilia,

I mean LFI no disrespect (since I do not know enough to make a
*completely* informed decision), but it would seem to me that the biggest
wave many will make is when they "wave" goodbye to their money.

I had no idea that LFI was 20 years old.  20 years old and only in 5
countries?  That's appalling.  International?  Hardly.

I've been involved with seven-year-old Tahitian Noni International for two
years now.  They are truly an "international" company.  Currently with a
physical presence (offices, warehouses, staff) in 30 countries and a
business presence in dozens more, they are continuing to expand globally.

I am a little biased, I agree, but the facts really do speak for
themselves.

Before TNI, FedEx held the record for fastest to US$1b in sales.  FedEx
did it in seven years.  TNI reached US$1b in sales in under five years,
breaking FedEx's record.   TNI turned seven on July 1, 2003.  In June (the
final month of the seventh year) TNI reached US$2b in sales.  Total
commissions paid to date exceed US$1,000,000,000 (ONE BILLION).

I don't know about anyone else, but to me, this is pretty awesome stuff
for a seven year old company.

"Tahitian Noni International is one of the fastest-growing companies in
America.  Fewer than 10 private companies in the history of the world have
been able to equal Tahitian Noni International's first 6 years of growth."
Griffin-Hill Consulting.

I didn't set out to turn this into "Who's got the better company?".  To
each their own.  However, it may be helpful to compare what else is around
before deciding that a 20 year old company that has only been able to
penetrate five countries is the ONE.

Earlier this month, a Senior Analyst from the Wall Street Journal
interviewed the President of TNI.
http://www.wallstreetreporter.com/linked/TahitianNoni.html

TNI may not be the company for you, but it is definitely worth comparing.

Though, Cecelia, I wish you well with LFI if you feel that it meets your
criteria.

Warmly,



Charles Green

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.3)=============
From:Dan Mage
Subject:Mark Joyner: Protected by my Inexperience

Cecilia, yes it clear to me Mr. Joyner knows
something about something, I'm just not in a
position to take a lot of chances now.

To the person who left a nice message for me
via my site:

Yes, "Bob" is everywhere. He originated with
"The Church of the Subgenius," a bad joke
disguised as a religion, or in the alternative
a bad religion disguised as a joke. They have
never objected to their imagery being used
in other contexts, but I must acknowledge
that Bob came about long before I even touched
a computer for the first time. All the other
images on my site have been taken from the
public domain, to the best of my knowledge.
Hardly anyone else seems to want them anyway.
Bob is, however, among other things,
"The Patron Saint of Sales." Who Better?

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.1)=============
From:Devasish Gupta
Subject:E-books all over the net

Respected Roger L. Martin,
You asked for a an e-book that guides one in effectively promoting any
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Wish you Success and happiness!
Yours sincerely,
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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (1)=============
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Subject:TWO unique software I use to save hours of logging

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=====================Site Review Response  (1)===============
From:Anita Cohen-Williams
Subject: http://SelectYourStore.com

John,

This is a very good start. There are a few comments I have.

There are lines of HTML code showing up in your directory. These need to
be hidden.

Your meta tags do not have enough keywords in them and your title is too
long. Also, the title tag is repeated, which is known as keyword stuffing
and can hurt you on the search engines.

Titles can only be 60 characters long (including spaces).

If you need further help, feel free to contact me.

Anita Cohen-Williams


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=====================Site Review Response  (2)===============
From:Anita Cohen-Williams
Subject: http://Forest-of-dreams.com

Michelle,

I LOVE your art!! Your web site is very nice as well, but I have several
comments.

I like the color of the background, but the text directly on in (i.e. not
in a box) needs to be bigger and darker (you can tell I am getting
old...).

The Updates box should be a little bit bigger for ease of use.

There should be another paragraph of content on the front page that has
your keywords in it,like, paintings, art for sale, landscapes, etc. Also,
the display pages themselves need specific title tags (but not description
or keyword tags).

In order to appear on the search engines, your meta tags need more
keywords in them, and your site should be submitted to the relevant search
engines.

Anita Cohen-Williams


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From:Anita Cohen-Williams
Subject: http://houseofgar-unusualtreasures.com

Please get rid of the frames! Search engines have a very hard time with
these.


Anita Cohen-Williams

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=====================Site Review Response  (4)===============
From:Jeff Foster
Subject:http://selectyourstore.com

John,
   It appears you have spent quite a bit of time with your site and
overall the content looks okay. You expressed concerns about load time and
that certainly needs some work. I would suggest a separate page for each
of the links you have at the top instead of anchoring to different places
on an extremely long page. As a rule of thumb, try making your pages no
longer than it would take half a scroll to get to the bottom. By spreading
your content over several well optimized pages you will also find that you
get better ranking in the search engines. You also need to lighten up on
the banner ads to no more than a couple per page. Remember that those are
all pulled from different servers which have to be looked up by the
browser and again slowing down the load time.
   I also noted that it appears you used Microsoft Word to build your
pages. Microsoft products add a lot of unnecessary code to webpages. I
suggest you find a good web editing software. An excellent free web editor
is HTML_Kit ( http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ ).
   Best of luck with your site.


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Top 3 Reasons Why Web Marketers Fail & What You Can Do To Avoid Them
ByDoug West

So you have tried to market your offers, or home biz deal,
on the Internet and things have just not worked out for
you! You hear about all the folks out there who are getting
rich online, and you wonder why success has not yet come
your way. If this applies to you, this article can help you
find hidden mistakes in your marketing efforts and how to
avoid them.

Reason #1) They put up their web site, and then wonder why
no visitors are coming. In other words, they do nothing and
wonder why they are not making any money.

This is the number one killer for your ebiz, or any
business for that matter. You MUST do something if you want
your business to grow and prosper. There are many options
that you can use on the Internet for getting visitors to
your site. Find out what works best for you, and then keep
doing it. But, you MUST do something!

Reason #2) Ineffective Ad Copy or Web Site Copy.

Let's face it; if you don't have compelling ad copy no one
is going to visit your site from your marketing efforts. If
and when you get visitors to your site, the message on your
web site must be compelling enough to get them to fill out
a form, or ask for more information. If you don't have the
experience or skill of writing good copy, you have two
choices:

1) You can learn how to write copy
2) You can hire someone to write the copy for you

In my opinion learning to write your own copy is best. Who
knows your business better than you? I have paid ones to
write copy for me before and have never been happy with the
result. There are good copywriters out there to be sure,
but they won't treat your project like their baby - because
it is not! Learn how to do it yourself, and you can launch
a new product or service any time you get ready!

A few programs exist that will help you write better copy.
Of the ones we have investigated, we prefer Yanic Silver's
Instant Sales Letters at:

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Reason #3) This reason really ties in with the first 2,
yet is important enough to be in it's own category. Here it
is: ==> Folks Don't Read Enough!

You would think that this would not be a problem on the
Internet, but it is a HUGE one! I'm not sure why people get
online and then don't read or do any homework, but they
don't. The net is all about information, and if you want to
take advantage of the possibilities, you better learn to
read!

I must spend a couple grand each year or more buying
books, ebooks, and other info products. If you are in
business not only is this necessary but you can write off
the cost of educating yourself.

Too many would-be entrepreneurs feel they can skimp in
this area. Not only do they not purchase any study
material, but they won't read any free content either. Then
you have the group that does purchase books and other
material for their business, and then they never take time
to read it. What a waste! They probably have an ebook or
other info product right there on their hard drive and they
simply forgot they have it, or won't take time to do any
homework.

There you have it, the top 3 reasons why folks fail in
their online marketing efforts. To avoid this in your own
business simply:

Do something (don't set on your hands and expect business
 to come to you)
Work on your ad copy and web site copy or hire a
 professional
Do your homework - READ!


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Judi and Monika were chatting over coffee.  Judi said, "Ya
know, here lately, I've been experiencing a strange and
painful side effect from coffee.  I'm fine when I drink it black,
but if I put cream or sugar or both in it, I get this horrible
stabbing pain in one eye."

With that, she took a drink of her coffee.  "OWWW!  Damn!
See!  There it goes again," she said.

Monika said, "Judi, take the spoon out of the cup."



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