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C o n t i n u i n g   D i s c u s s i o n s (5)
============================================ = Terrorist organisation!!
~William Jaroske

2.The war between good and evil. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference
~Julie Martin

3.How I can find high-quality...newsletters to advertise in...?
~John Olson

4.Engine Placement
~Amalia Sotiriadou
~Robert Lee
~John Olson
~Kindra Martinenko
~Paul Penafiel

5.Future of the email
~Anne Hougaard
~Robert Lee
~Marianne Payton

N e w     P o s t s  (3)

1.Bill Reed
~Ezine Alert opinions requested

2.Gerry Antonelli
~Free Advertising

3.Henry Tava
~Whistling in the Future

Site Review Requests   (3)

1.Cheryl A. Crossan

2.Robert Lee

3.Paul Mahoney

Site Review Responses   (6)

1.John Olson
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2.John Olson

3.Kim B. Juul

4.Robert Lee

5.John Olson

6.Paul Penafiel

G u e s t   A r t i c l e    (1)
1.Print Advertising Can Drive Targetted Traffic to your site
By John T. Jones, Ph. D

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.1)=============
From:William Jaroske = Terrorist organisation!!

Robert Lee wrote,

< Quote >
I agree totally. Spamcop, despite what I am sure will be a deluge of
emails from people defending this company, are out to make a $$ and not
really affect the real issue, SPAM and it's related miseries.

I was abused by their process when, at a previous host, my email server
was compromised and used (unknown by me) to send out a massive amount
of spam, then they blacklisted my domain.
And there is no way I can get this back, short of starting a new domain
or basically taking my 4+ year old domain offline and starting again.

Hopefully others won't have to go what I have been experiencing and
that this 'blacklist' will itself be pruned one day.
< End quote >

Well SpamCop has been known for bullying the small guy to sell their
services. We have more problems with SpamCop. They sure want to make
themselves look bad. I would not even recommend SpamCop after reading this

You should go to if you have been a victim of
SpamCop abuse

SpamCop Victim Report

I think its outrageous on what they have done. The
people that are defending this company are out to make Money, and they are
totally brainwashed to the max if you ask me. The people who run SpamCop
can just disappear for what I am concerned. Besides, they people who
defend that company can go down with the ship with them. I do not care
about their service what-so-ever period. I look at and it has
a Sampling of Spamcop False Reports

William Jaroske

Invest in worthwhile opportunities for once. Its plain foolish to promote
gimmicky scams and schemes with no hopes to make money. Get yourself
educated today!!


===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.1)=============
From:Julie Martin
Subject:The war between good and evil. Sometimes it's hard to tell the

William Jaroske wrote: More times than often I found they were peddling
products that are complete garbage.

Noni juice, Amway, Six Figure Income, Retire Quickly and other pyramid
schemes that DO NOT WORK.

Well I have news for William Jaroske. Six Figure Income DOES work!

I have been with SFI for 9 months now, and I can honestly say I have been
banking REAL commission checks from day one. At the time of writing this I
was number 29 in the top 100 sellers for the month of November at SFI, and
the guy who sponsored me into SFI was at number 2.

While I am not yet earning enough from SFI to allow me to give up the day
job, I am certainly earning more per hour from SFI than I am in the "real
world" I hope to be able to give up my full time "real job" within the
next 6 months.

My SFI sponsor regularly publishes his monthly commission stats online and
last time I checked he was banking an incredible $5,366.73 per month (Jan
2003) just from his SFI business. Now I don't know about you, but I sure
would be happy banking checks like that!

As to the comment "More times than often I found they were peddling
products that are complete garbage" He is obviously not aware that SFI has
a "Partners Mall" for all affiliates. Our Partners include the likes of
Barnes and Noble, Disney, Warner Bros., Wal-Mart, Avon, Tupperware to name
just a few.

We also have products such as Sean Casey's "Mining Gold" eBook, Veriuni
Cleaning products, Veriuni Multi Vitamins, Great Domania Domain
registration service plus to many other quality products. None of which
are "garbage"

I currently only work at my SFI business for about 10-15 hours a week. If
I can make a profit with so little work, then SFI must "work" I suggest
that it is not the affiliate programs that "do not work" it is probably
the likes of Mr Jaroske who doesn't. After all no program will work if you
just sign up and sit back and do nothing!

SFI have been in the business of MLM (not pyramid scheme please) for 18
years. SFI also has over 8.2 million affiliates, growing at a rate of
several thousand a day. I truly believe that SFI allows anybody the
opportunity to make money online, so please Mr Jaroske, leave SFI alone!

Julie Martin
Proud SFI Powerline Team Leader

The only home-based marketing group on the Internet that has actually
helped 1,000's of people to start making money from their own homes. For
more info visit:



===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.1)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:How I can find high-quality...newsletters to advertise in...?


You asked: "I wonder how I can find high-quality (good editorial, good
circulation) newsletters to advertise our CRM and data analytic
tools in? Any suggestions appreciated."

You mean other then Adland Digest...?

I'm sure others will offer some suggestions, but here's a site that lists
lots of News Letters and E-zines. I suggest subscribing to a few and
seeing what they offer and then advertise with the ones that are the best.
Here's the URL:

Good luck,

John Olson

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.1)=============
From:Amalia Sotiriadou
Subject:Engine Placement

Jennifer there are so many different rules that each search engine uses to
determine a website's placement in its pages, that it has become almost
impossible for us "mere mortals" to figure it out any more. Plus, the
rules keep changing every couple of months or so just to keep things
The best thing to do would be to get some professional help and I can't
think of a better place to get it than here: (Click on Page 1 ranking on the
If you absolutely can't afford this service, then I would suggest you
select 2 or 3 main Search Engines such as Google, AltaVista etc. and find
out as much as you can about their requirements, then go through the long
and painful procedure of modifying your website to comply.
Good luck!
Amalia Sotiriadou

Why "just advertise" when you can advertise and EARN?


===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.2)=============
Subject:Engine Placement

Hello Jennifer Smith,


I read your request with some interest, this is my reply to your

Search Engine Optimization Basics

In this topic we take a look at how to submit to the search engines.

Do you remember when websites needed to be submitted every day in order to
get listed on the search engines? Or the time when we all needed to submit
our sites to over 50,000 search engines in order to achieve traffic?

Well, actually we never needed to do any of the above, but in a rush to
achieve top search engine positioning, many businesses were convinced that
submitting often and to thousands of search engines would bring that pot
of search engine gold they so desperately wanted.

 Fast-forward to today and the concepts behind submitting yourwebsite have
dramatically changed. Now that you've started to optimize your website,
how do you make sure that your content reaches its target audience? No
doubt, you can name the most important search engines and I would hazard a
guess that you could name many of the smaller ones too. Which ones are
important and how should you submit to them? Let's take a look.THE BIG
FOUR Google - 29.5% of searches*Google is everyone's favorite search
engine, but how do you get your website listed?

First there is the submission form, located on their website. Google has
always preferred to find new websites by spidering existing sites in its
index and following new links from there.

If you want to increase your chances of seeing your website indexed, find
some quality websites or directories to link to your new site now. Google
typically updates its full index once a month, so do not panic if 4 weeks
have gone by and there's still no sign of being indexed.

However, if after 6 weeks, your site is still not indexed, concentrate on
adding more quality links and work on getting listed in the Open
Directory. See below. Yahoo - 28.9% of searchesUp until about 18 months
ago, the best way to get listed in Yahoo was by paying the annual $299 fee
to be listed in their directory.

However, at this time, Yahoo gets its results from the Google index and a
directory listing is no longer vital (although many like having the
directory listing as well). So for the time being, I recommend
concentrating on getting your website listed in Google, and that will take
care of Yahoo (although with Yahoo acquiring Inktomi, this could soon

MSN - 27.6% of searchesThere are two effective ways to get your website
listed in the MSN results (sponsored listings aside). You can submit your
website to Looksmart (see below) and find your site listed in the "Web
Directory Sites" or you can favor Inktomi and have your website listed in
the "Web Pages" section.AOL - 18.4% of searchesThe submission process for
AOL, is well, non-existent.

AOL uses the results from Google, so obtaining a listing at Google is
important if you wish to be shown in AOL.* NetRatings for January 2003.
Results do not add up to 100% as some searchers use more than one search

THE DIRECTORIESThe Open DirectoryThe Open Directory is also referred to as
ODP or DMOZ. To get your website listed in the directory, simply find the
most appropriate category for your website and click the "add url" link.
Follow the instructions carefully.

Do not be tempted to write a description that is full of dozens of
keywords. Pick 3-4 of your most important keywords and write a 20-30-word
description that includes these terms. DMOZ editors are known for changing
the descriptions submitted by website owners, so make sure yours is well
written so that you reduce the chance of it being edited; it could be your
keywords that are edited out.

Remember, editors are unpaid at DMOZ, so don't expect to see your website
listed after just a few days. It could take weeks or even months. You can
read further instructions at the DMOZ site.

LooksmartPay the $29 to have your site reviewed and listed in the
Looksmart directory. Once listed, you will pay $0.15 per click for the
first 5,000 visitors that Looksmart generates to your website. After that,
your click-thru rate is adjusted depending on the type of business you
operate (rates range from $0.23 to $0.75 per click). The good news is that
you can set your monthly budget to ensure that you do not overspend
(minimum spend is $15 a month). You can submit your site via this link.

THE CRAWLERSInktomi - provides results to Looksmart, MSN, Hotbot and
Overture.The best way to get listed in Inktomi is to use one of the many
paid-inclusion services. The cost is typically $39 a year for the first
URL you submit and $25 for each URL thereafter. The subscription is for
one year and usually ensures your site is listed within 48 hours.

Two of the main providers of Inktomi paid-inclusion are: PositionTech and
Network Solutions.Ask JeevesCrawler results for Ask Jeeves are provided by
Teoma (which Ask owns). Fees are in line with Inktomi and are $30 per year
for the first URL and $18 for each additional URL. The main paid-inclusion
partners are PositionTech and Google-Type Ad Box - Your
Keywords - Top 10 Placement

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Fast - provides results to Lycos and AllTheWebSites indexed are displayed
at both AllTheWeb and Lycos, so submitting is definitely worthwhile. The
fees are typically $34 per year for the first URL and $16 for each
additional URL. The main paid-inclusion partners are PositionTech and
Lycos InSite Select.

AltaVistaAltaVista has either its basic submit service , which is free but
very slow, or you can use the paid inclusion option which will cost you
$39 for your first URL (this is for 6 months only).

Netscape and iWonBoth Netscape and iWon receive their crawler results from
Google.ExactSeekI wanted to include at least one of the up-and-coming
crawlers to consider. is one of the few search engines that spiders both the Title
tag and Meta tags and it is easy to submit your site and has options for
enhancing your listing.In SummaryNow for some caveats and clarification on
the above. While some search engines offer free submission services and
others will index your site eventually if you have inbound links, the
advice above concentrates on the quickest and most effective means of
getting your website indexed.

In addition, I have not delved into the realms of "Direct-Feeds" or
Pay-Per-Click which would need articles in their own right. However, for
most small to medium sized businesses looking to follow the best methods
of submitting a website, the above information should be enough to ensure
that your site is indexed.

If you're ready for your website to be the next "blockbuster," then
following the guidelines above will help ensure your success.

Best wishes,






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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.3)=============
From:Robert Lee
Subject:Engine Placement

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.4)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:Engine Placement


Well, you've got a great looking site and I can see you've got your Meta
Tags all set and ready to go. I'm sure many will offer some advice on
getting a good placement in the Search Engines. Of course one piece of
advice would be to do some Pay Per Click listings. Where you bid in the
Key Words you think will get you customers. This can get expensive if
you're not careful. Here's some advice that I've heard more then once. If
you're going to do the PPC listings, you don't have to have the Number One
spot, second, third or even lower isn't bad and more cost effective. Just
as long as you're on the first page.

The other piece of advice I think is good, is to craft the wording the
engines use to describe your site to get Customers, No Lookers. You're
paying for every click that comes through those links, so you want to be
as sure as you can that you're going to be get Real Customers, people who
are ready to buy.

For an inexpensive way to help your site listings you might want to add a
"Favorite Links" page on your site. Search Engines love sites that have
lots of other sites linked to them. That makes them think you must have
something worth while and they tend to list you higher because of these

To do this, you need a "Links" page hosted on your site, and then search
out other sites that offer similar products or services. Make sure any
sites you find that you'd like to trade links with, have a "Links" page of
their own. Then contact the site owner and politely ask to exchange links
with them explaining the benefits of higher SE placement. You might even
place a link to their site on your own first and provide a link to the
page it's on when you contact the site owner. Provide them with the URL
and a short description of your site when you contact them.

The more links to similar sites you have on your site, the better the
Search Engines will like you.

For just about everything you ever wanted to know about Search Engines,
but were afraid to ask, I suggest heading over to Self Promotion:

It's a wordy site, but the owner's got a way about him that makes it all a
fun read. There's lots of information on his site and it'll be very
helpful to you.

Good luck and when you have your own "Favorite Links" page, contact me and
I'll be happy to trade links with you.

John Olson

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.5)=============
From:Kindra Martinenko
Subject:Engine Placement

Jennifer, I have been struggling with this topic too.  It seems to me,
after months and months of research that trying to get ranked high on the
search engines is nearly impossible unless:

1.  You pay your way to the top via Overture or Yahoo's Sponsor placements
(these are just examples).
2.  You have very popular keywords, and these keywords have not been used
over and over again by other people.
3.  You are linked with a gazillion other websites via link exchanges,
Free For All pages and classifieds. (No offence to Bogdan and Adland Pro,
but the truth is, it takes aggressive submission to these sites to get the
results you want--which takes a lot of time).

I have become so incredibly frustrated with trying to win the "ranking
game" that I have considered purchasing engine cloaker software that
tricks spiders into thinking you have 1000's of optimized pages. But will
this even work?  I don't know, but the major search engines seem to adjust
their criteria as swiftly as people catch on to their tactics.  Its an
ongoing battle and the edge is still on the side of the search engines. If
there is anyone from Google who decides to defect and reveal exactly what
they do in those cubicles all day, I would pay through my nose to know
their tactics.

Not all is lost though...

If you want a good idea as to how search engines work in the first place,
I would suggest going to one of my articles at

Another great resource is at, specifically this
tutorial:  Of
all tutorials, this is the cream of the crop in my opinion.  The guy is
funny and is easy to understand.  On top of that, he speaks the truth.

The important thing to remember is to make connections in other ways to
drive traffic to your site for free. Adland Pro is a good resource.  Also
try finding other marketers like you who are willing to offer inexpensive
advertising.  Sometimes small amounts of highly targeted traffic is better
than 1000 "junk" visitors.  I am still in the process of learning the hard
way that often, good old fashioned marketing via word of mouth and
networking with other like-minded individuals goes a long way in getting
your site recognized.  Do not be afraid to reach out and connect.

Good luck and feel free to contact me!

Kindra K. Martinenko

Cascades Internet Solutions


===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.6)=============
From:Paul Penafiel
Subject:Engine Placement

You said:

"I'm a complete rookie at e-commerce and haven't
figured out how the search engine placement-hierarchy-
thing works.  Does anyone share the magic secret? I'm
hoping it isn't based spending a gob of money with each
site. Please advise for an advertising rookie, on a

Getting a top 5 listings on major search engines search
results is not an easy task, it's very hard actually, I
don't care what anybody says.

You should do alot of research by visiting forums
dedicated on search engines optimizations and ask alot
of questions.  Study sites that are highly rank on
search engines that's similar to yours, take notes and
you will find that they have something in common, and
that is they are linked to other similar sites.

For example, your shopping site is similar Lee
Mayberry's site, both sites are competing for shoppers
in general yet offer wide variety of products.  You
two could link your sites together and find as many
other merchants that are looking for link partners with
similar themed sites.

You see, search engines like Google gives considerations
to websites that are linked to other similar sites which
considers it popular, which in turn indexed your site.

When you have alot of sites that are directly linked
to your site, you could achieve similar results to this
site, which is receiving
several thousand hits a day from high search engine
placement and from the link partners.

Go to and search the term "car wax" and you
will notice that it's on the top 5 search results.

I would highly recommend reading Glen Cannady's ebook
which you'll find here: http://gorillawebsitemarketing.

I can give you a free copy of this ebook if you wish
by sending me an email to this address with a subject" Paul, I saw
your posting on Adland Digest".

Jennifer, this is just one tactic on getting a top
placement on search engines based on other people's
experience and there's no guaranteed it might work
in the future.

Good luck with your website Jennifer Smith.

Paul Penafiel

Internet Marketer



===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (5.1)=============
From:Anne Hougaard
Subject:Future of the email

Dear Bogdan,

I agree, as you know I just started my business.  It started to take off
and now all I do is fend off advertiser on Pornography and pills and home
mortgage companies.  Just over the weekend alone, I received over 300
emails from these people.  They are spam  but do the spam cops do anything
about them no.  I have to ezining companies who support them, that refuse
to release me from receiving anymore emails from them.  It is a real pain
in the neck.

My ISP was not happy because I have such a full email box.  You only get
so much space you are paying premium for.  The first 45 minutes to an
hour each day is devoted going through my email for clients who are lost
in the trash that is sent to me.  It is unfair and not right.

I now use Outlook Express that has a Block agent on it.  When I get an
unwanted email,I simply now block the sender.  I have one company who
refuses to leave me a lone.  They send their stuff on different webs so no
matter how many times they are blocked you still get their junk.

Anne Hougaard

Motivation Books



===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (5.2)=============
From:Robert Lee
Subject:Future of the email

I think that as far as spam goes, most that posted here have missed the
point as to the cause.
Yes, it upsets most people, maybe 99.9999% of all internet users, if I can
be so bold to say.

But it has it's obvious attraction in that you can email 25 million
addresses for well under $100.00 so you only need a couple of sales to
recover your costs and the rest is profit.

Now, I have never used email to market my websites, but the attraction is
there. As far as complaining to us people, worrying about false IP
addresses and such, get real. Forget the email headers, click on the ad
and complain to whatever company actually is at the end of the process.
Maybe they will listen, maybe they won't. But at least you'll be making
yourself heard more that this.

Otherwise, we'll have to put up with this forever.

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (5.3)=============
From:Marianne Payton
Subject:Future of the email

Dear Bogdan:

I thought I would forward you this link so that you can read just how serious
these new FTC rules have become.  You may have to follow suit with the info

I know this is ridiculous, but the FTC is really cracking down and I wouldn't
want this to happen to you.

God Bless,
Marianne Payton, Charter Member of iCop

Professional Organization of the Highest Integrity
Created BY the Members, FOR the Members!




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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (1)=============
From:Bill Reed
Subject:Ezine Alert opinions requested

Bogdan this is a bit long but with the nature of the request, I am not
sure how to make it any shorter.
Bill Reed

To Bogdan and my fellow subscribers: I have been a subscriber since 1998 I
I am convinced that the Adland digest is by far the best publication of
it's kind on the Internet and I have the upmost respect for Bogdan and my
fellow subscribers to it. That is why I am asking this through the Adland

I am quoting part of your comment, Bogdan, in the Nov 2 issue.
I believe we are entering new phase of email as a means of communication.
What I mean by this, email is becoming less and less useful tool due to
spammers, spam filters, spam blockers and companies making decisions to
block certain domains based on the amount of messages regardless of if
they are legitimate or not.

I have been working on a solution for publishers and subscribers both in
regards to the problems with either delivering or receiving news letters.
That solution has now been launched within the past couple months.

The problem is I am having a hard time getting publishers to try a new way
of marketing their news letters.

I would respectfully request both, those who are publishers and those who
subscribes to take a look at the site and read about how this program we
have developed works.

I need feedback in regards to it as to if it is presenting a clear
understanding of what our program will do and how it works or not.

The reason I am asking for this is because it appears that I am having a
problem getting publishers to actually try the program. I am currently
offering a free 3 month trial period, plus free branding of the software
for publishers and of course there is never a charge for subscribers.

I have had several publishers to sign up, but even after signing up not
one of them is offering the EA program as an alternate subscribe method to
their regular subscription method.

Ezine Alert does not use an email address for the subscriber to subscribe
to any participating news letter. However the publisher has direct access
to knowing exactly how many subscribers they have through the EA program.

Now is it because the publisher does not get the email address of the
subscriber that is holding them back, from trying the program. If so this
would be an unfair assessment, as any good publisher can always build trust
quickly in their readers and they will then give you their email address
for the right reason.

The system is designed to allow persons to subscribe to news letters or
ezines without risking having their email address exposed to spammers.
This could be a good thing for both publishers and readers, as it protects
readers, and it allows publishers to get subscribers who are very
protective of their addresses.

In regards to subscribers, my question to you would be, if publishers
participated would you try a new way of receiving your news letters if it
meant spam free, 100% delivery, and absolutely no viruses. The system does
not use email in any form. It also does not use RSS feeds as many
subscribers have no idea how to incorporate the RSS into a reader to
receive the site.

I know that we have a good product in the software and program, and it can
be a great way to provide publishers and readers a much better avenue for
news letters or ezines.

My problem is I need to know what I am doing wrong as it is not really
being accepted as I felt it should.

That is why I am asking for opinions on it from both news letter
publishers and subscribers. I need views from both sides.

In regards to the site design or looks, it is rather plain at the moment
and plans for professional design are in the works.

Please give opinions on the program itself if you will.

My grateful thanks to you Bogdan for publishing this request and my thanks
also to those readers who take the time to try to answer some of my
concerns in regards to  the site. Url is in my signature.

Thanks to all,
Bill Reed

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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (2)=============
From:Gerry Antonelli
Subject:Free Advertising

is there such a thing?? ive been told to post on message boards and that
there are alot of places to advertise a web site for free

it seems everyone i find that says free it just a way to get you there and
then find its not free.

so please tell me is there ant free advertising really out there??

Gerry Antonelli


==============N e w P o s t i n g  (3)=============
From:Henry Tava
Subject:Whistling in the Future

What if, in the future all business will be home-based online, and people
will never see or talk to another person alive...that is scary to think

  As more and more non-profit organizations take their beginnings online,
"virtual volunteering and paid-jobs" is becoming increasingly popular
around the world. Many people find that by eliminating the travel time to
job outside, they actually have more time to give at home online. I
understand they have families, kids, sick loved ones to look out for, etc.
It's life for you. Well, call me old-fashioned, but if you're not a single
Dad or Mom with many kids, you might prefer more new business opportunity
for yourself to create outside the Internet. Don't get me wrong, it's cool
to try to work online and have a well design web page for clients and
customers, but what if, in the future all business will be home-based
online? People will never leave their homes, and never see or talk to
another live person ever. As you know now more and even more
schools/colleges have classes online, so the students doesn't have to live
their homes and travel to campuses. People purchase their feature movies,
sports games and theatre plays online, so they don't have go to the
theatres and stadiums soon.
   I just had to write about this ticklish issue and tell you how very
impressed I been by finding this great site and share my
thoughts with you all. I also would like to find out if anyone have any
ideas to create a non-home business to make a difference and probably
looking for a partner now? Looking forward to your opinions on this
matter. 11.15.03

Henry Tava - EduSol, Inc.



=====================Site Review Request  (1)===============
From:Cheryl A. Crossan

Hi Adland folks. For about 1 and 1/2 years I've been publishing an ezine,
NetSteals News designed to help new people start a business for free or
low cost. Now, as a sorta dream come true I have started a JV with a
friend on a site called A NewbieGinning. It offers low cost site design,
hosting, domain name registration, discounted ad services and professional
autoresponders, well, just every thing we could think of that a person
might need to get a business up and running. I would really be pleased if
you could review it for me and give suggestions on improvements. The url
is Thanks, Cheryl

Cheryl A. Crossan is the publisher of NetSteals News, owner of and now


=====================Site Review Request  (2)===============
From:Robert Lee

Many of you have seen this domain that I have created. It's still alive
but has been pushed to the back burner as more important things have

For now I'd appreciate a look at this page in particular:
Does the information help the proper target audience?
Is it in plain enough English to help you or someone  you know that has
very limited computer knowledge?

I created the site with DHTML so it's only IE compatible. How do you feel
about that?


Robert Lee

AKA 'The Smart Guy' - fighting online business ignorance since 1999


=====================Site Review Request  (3)===============
From:Paul Mahoney

Hello All,

After a redesign of my site I am now looking for a site review.

I have had a good response with visitors now browsing deeper into the
site, but thought I would ask for comments from you guys and gals.

The address is

I am particularly interested in cross-browser compatibility.

Thanks In Advance

Paul Mahoney

FiberStarr Systems


=====================Site Review Response  (1)===============
From:John Olson
Subject: http://www/


I like the site too and I think the baby pictures are just fine. Kinda
cute if you ask me.

The only thing I have a problem with is your use of Frames. Not a good
idea, search engine wise. Other then that, you've got some good prices and
a great looking site.

And I will agree with Ricky, I'd lose the pop up on the home page, maybe
turn it into a pop under if you really need it. Very distracting, but then
aren't all those things?

Good luck,

John Olson

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=====================Site Review Response  (2)===============
From:John Olson


First off let me say, the background color and text on the home page makes
it hard to read. Either make all the text "Bold" or change the background

And here's a text problem right at the top, I quote:

HYIP Central Is hereto make your searching for the windows of opportunity
that exist within the HYIP community.

End Quote.

To make your searching... What? This is half a sentence, I don't
understand what it is you are doing, not one bit.

You don't tell us what HYIP is here for. It took me quite a bit of reading
to figure out what the heck your site was all about. And I'm still not
sure I got it right.

And PLEASE, when you're going to use initials like this, HYIP, tell us
what they stand for. I have no idea what HYIP stands for.

Going back to the background color, this appears to be an investment help
type site, as far as I can see. So what is it doing with any background
but White with back text? You're asking people to trust your judgment as
far as I can see, then you need to gain their trust from the start.

The site should be all business and that includes the use of colors, both
background and text. Right now, it looks kind of cheap to me and that
would make me wonder what I'd fallen into. It doesn't build trust.

On the "Paid" page, you tell us that we can click on the Blue text at the
top of the page to be taken to that organizations site. Well, at first, I
looked at the top of that page, and then figured out it was the top of the
pages linked further down. Which I might add, don't all have a Blue text
link at the top. If you're going to have this bit of instruction, then
place it on each of the pages, not on the "Paid" page.

Also, with that green background, the blue text is hard to read. Get rid
of the green background.

The best thing you can do right now with this site, is to make it look
more professional by getting rid of the green. And then explaining more
clearly what it is you are offering right from the start. And what HYIP
stands for. Maybe it's a business thing that people in those circles know,
but I don't.

Oh, and I'm not even talking about the lack of Meta tags as far as I can

Good luck with it,

John Olson

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Let Me, Help You,


=====================Site Review Response  (3)===============
From:Kim B. Juul

Hi Lee,

A short note on how you might are able to improve your website.

It's nice and clean, easy to navigate and the colors are fine.

And I think it's great that you've made room for small improvements as

Here is how:

1. Logo needs a little refinement - try perhaps to use less 'graphic
effect' when producing it. A simple black and white with a neat font type
would most likely do just as fine and then it's easy to transform to
paperformat if needed.

2. Put some great offers on the front page - e.g. inexpensive items.

3. Make the trademarks smaller and put them to the most right - just make
sure the page isn't any wider than 750 pixels. This make sure that people
with 800x600 screens can view the whole page without scrolling to the
sides and people with 1024x800 can have their Favorites open.

4. Make the links Basket/Checkout/Profile etc. in the same buttonstyle as
the above ones - just use another color to make them stand out.

5. Put in a "Sign up for our newsletter" formular, so you can grab those
email addresses. The offer you had this time weren't the one they was
looking for - perhaps the offer next week is? :-) You can make it a
pop-away thing that comes up, when they are leaving your site.

Ok, as I said; just a short note. I hope some of it are usable. Best of
luck to you.

Kim B. Juul


=====================Site Review Response  (4)===============
From:Robert Lee

Your site loads fast and has usable navigation despite being in frames.
I'd change the top bar to include more than FAQ and CONTACT US links.
Maybe some specials, additional links, ads, something to get some
attention, otherwise the visit to your site is very staid.

On your home page I'd move away from the company logos and use very low
resolution thumbnail images of product. I'd reduce their size throughout
your site, if possible. They are too big when included with the products.

You may want to group products by name brand, as well as type. Sony stuff
sells well together so you shouldn't have it scattered all over your site
to be hunted down.

Your search results page should NOT have the company logos included, load
time is much slower.

The site is well suited for Internet Explorer, Opera and Netscape current
browsers, which is good. Sometimes different browsers are overlooked.

I attempted to place an order, to try out your system and received this
An error occurred computing shipping charges.
on the resulting billing.aspx page. You'll want to check this.

Overall you have a good start. A little more user friendly, better ways
for customer service contact and you should have a nice monthly income

Robert Lee

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=====================Site Review Response  (5)===============
From:John Olson


Good for you and I wish you luck with your site and your new business.
Now, on to the review.

First off, it's a great little site. But....

You need to work on your Meta Tags, there's not much there for Search
Engines to grab on to. Just a few words, and not much to describe your

Next, you need some more copy on the Home page, tell us about you and your
site. Make us want to run around it and shop with you. The old, "What's in
it for Me?" Question needs to be answered. There are a lot of sites out
there offering similar things. You need to stand out somehow and give
people a reason to shop with you and not someone else.

Another thing you should consider is starting a Mailing List. Offer a
discount coupon when someone subscribes as a come on. Then mail to that
list on a regular basis and not only tell them what's going on with you,
but what's new on the site. And offer other discounts if you can swing it.
Help them get to know you and offer the best deals you can.

You've got a FAQ page with nothing on it. Fix that... Write some FAQ you
think people will need to know about you and your site and ordering from

The Contact Us page also need some work. Tell us again, who you are, and
give several easy ways for people to contact you if they have questions.
And when they do, answer them as fast and as completely as you can.

There's a lot of competition out there and you need to do your best to
hang on to any customers you get. Once someone orders from you, they need
to be on your list, if they're not already. Keep them updated and offer
whatever you can to get them back to the site and ordering again. Once you
have a customer, Keep Them...

Good luck with the site and the Business,

John Olson

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=====================Site Review Response  (6)===============
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=====================G u e s t   A r t i c l e   (1)===============
Print Advertising Can Drive Targeted Traffic to your siteq
ByJohn T. Jones, Ph. D

The goal of every webmaster is to entice targeted traffic to his or her
site. What is targeted traffic? I have nine (9) websites. At,  I say that:

Targeted traffic is selling pruning shears to orchard growers.

Targeted traffic is selling rifles to hunters.

Targeted traffic is NOT selling bathing suits to Eskimo teenagers in

My customers at my main e-commerce site are business minded people,
usually working out of their office. They are looking for ways to start a
new business or to grow an existing one. My site has books, kits, and
newsletters to help them do this. Some of my
customers are looking for loan sources, grant sources, or such.

Since I know who my customers are,  I know where they are. I know what
they read. So, I can get directly to them by buying classified ads in
business magazines such as Inc., Entrepreneur , and opportunity
magazines, and such.

Now most of us don't want to pay for print advertising. It is expensive!
However, if you can get a 2 to 3 times return, you have paid for the ad
and you have a new customer.

Some magazines, like Jackpot, allow you to simply advertise your URL. That
cost about $17.00. One customer pays for it!

The larger magazines require a minimum of 10 words and charge about
$150.00 for one insertion. However, they usually have a bargain if you
order multiple insertions, typically you get three (3) insertions
when you buy two (2).

If you think that print advertising might increase your sells, then you
must find the publications that target your buyers. I've found that a
zillion ads
blasted in weekly shoppers, give little or no return. You are not
targeting. You are shotgunning. So set your sites before you buy.

As an example, I purchased a one inch ad in a major national magazine that
has 36 million readers. Their ad department said that I should sell a ton
of the booklets I was promoting. I thought, man, I only need to sell one
booklet to one of ten thousand readers. I'm going to make out okay. I
didn't sell a booklet  to one in a million readers. The ad cost about
and that is the amount I lost. Don't broadcast to the nation.

Find your target instead. I have the same, but less expensive, results in
placing ads in newspapers across the nation. You need a hard-to-find
that everybody wants or needs if you are going to shotgun to the masses.

Just like on the Internet, you must test your ads to maximise sells. Here
is a suggestion for you to save money. Put several ads on
advertising the same product.

I'm not talking about the ads you submit
to the wide world of the Internet. I'm talking about Click Through ads
placed on the site. I like to use banners there.

You can put a headline on a  banner and test it in a very short time
because Bogdan sends you an e-mail every time your banner ad is clicked.

What I'm getting at is this: you can save one heck of a lot of money in
print advertising if you check your headline and text on

Try five headlines, see what the rates of clicks to impressions are. Then
use the very best headlines in your print ads.

You can also use them in your other Internet advertising. You can use them
in the text on
your web pages.

I can't think of a smarter thing to do than
to test your ads on before you put out one dime on other
advertising sources.

I'm always looking for new ways to promote my sites. As a gold member, I
place banners at
I find that they are very effective.

I know whenever someone clicks to go to one of my sites or to one of the
affiliate program sites I participate in.

I'm interested in hearing from you about your web promotion experiences,
your suggestions, even the promotions you are selling, so feel free to
contact me:at

I feel the "NEED FOR SPEED" in promoting my web sites.

I've know Bogdan for some time. Over the years he has been very helpful to
me, following me a round as I moved from state to state.

He can help you too.

He is a dear friend.

John T. Jones, Ph.D.



=====================Joke of the Day   (1)===============

A Gallon is a Gallon !!

To keep things in perspective, even though it still hurts. . .. For those who
have forgotten their measurements and prices:

1 cup = 8 ounces
2 cups = 1 pint = 16 ounces
2 pints = 1 quart = 32 ounces
4 quarts = 1 gallon = 128 ounces

You think a gallon of gas is expensive?  Makes one think, and puts things in

Check out these prices:

Diet Snapple 16 oz $1.29.....$10.32 per gallon.
Lipton Ice Tea 16 oz $1.19.....$9.52 per gallon.
Gatorade 20 oz $1.59.....$10.17 per gallon.
Ocean Spray 16 oz $1.25.....$10.00 per gallon.
Brake Fluid 12 oz $3.15.....$33.60 per gallon.
Vicks Nyquil 6 oz $8.35.....$178.13 per gallon.
Pepto Bismol 4 oz $3.85.....$123.20 per gallon.
Whiteout 7 oz $1.39.....$25.42 per gallon.
Scope 1.5 oz $0.99.....$84.48 per gallon.

This is the REAL KICKER

Evian Water 9 oz $1.49.....$21.19 per gallon.

$21.19 FOR WATER! And the buyers don't even know the source. So, the next
time you're at the pump, be glad your car doesn't run on water, Scope or

Just a little humor to help ease the pain of your next trip to the gas

God Bless,
Marianne Payton, Charter Member of iCop


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