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C o n t i n u i n g   D i s c u s s i o n s (5)

~Charles Green
~Marcus Wommer
~Cathy Wagner

2.Getting visitors to my website
~Ken Zito
~John Olson

3.Putting value into perspective
~Amalia Sotiriadou
~Mireille Carrier
~John Olson
~Cathy Wagner

4.E-mail Marketing Dying?
~Lois M. Jeary

5.Andy Sparks - Congratulations to John Olson
~John Olson

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.1)=============
From:Charles Green

 Barnett Bando wrote:
> I am interested in the opinion of how people prospect for new
> people to show them their business, the kind of venues
> i.e. classified ads, posters, hot pockets flyers on cars,
> talking to people, pull tabs what works best for you.


I hope you get enough good responses to give you some great ideas.  Like
you, my wife and I are involved with a range of products targeted towards
those who want to improve their health, so perhaps some of my techniques
will work for you.  If something doesn't exactly fit your style, perhaps
you can adapt it.

Fortunately for me, the company we're involved with provides a huge amount
of help.  In most of the 73 countries where they operate, they even have a
toll free number that our prospects can call to ask any questions about
the company or products.  And, when they do, they can go into a draw to
win a free trip to Tahiti.  Anyway, that's another company.  Let's get
back to yours.

Based on the examples you gave, it would seem that you are prospecting
primarily offline.  Fortunately, many techniques can be used both online
and off.  This seems to be overlooked by the majority of people.

Again, if something doesn't exactly fit your style, perhaps you can adapt

Top of the success list is talking to people.  I see that is an example
you gave, so I hope that means it is something you do or are prepared to
do.  In addition to everything else I do online and off, I try wherever
possible to get a phone number so I can call people.

Whether in person or over the phone here is the "cold-prospect" approach I
now recommend...

You:   "Have you heard of <your company or product>?"

Them:  either "YES" or "NO"

Regardless of the answer...

You: "I have some information here.  If I give (or send) it to you, will
you listen/read/watch it?"

If the answer is NO, no big deal.  If this is a face-to-face encounter,
continue the conversation as normal.  Don't just walk away as that is
rude.  What are you?  A friendly human or prospecting robot?

If the answer is YES, provide them with the information (in person or via
snail mail, or online via email).

If you want the information back (eg. a tape, video or book) ask them,
"So, what is the best way I can get this back from you?"   Don't YOU ask
for their details, let THEM volunteer it.  They may back away if faced
with, "Give me your name, address and phone number".  If you ask them the
best way to get your stuff back, they may say, "I'll meet you back here at
.." or "Drop around at ...... at 6pm tomorrow" or "Ummm...give me your
address and I'll drop it back to you tomorrow".

I tried the "tell them everything over the phone" idea and it didn't work
too well.  You don't know what else they have going on.  They could be
about to go out, ready for bed, or busting to go and pee.  Let them learn
at their convenience by giving them the information and leaving it with

This is the same for email.  Provide some information.  Send them to your
site.  Leave them alone for a day or two, then follow up (gently) every
couple of days.

How do you get prospects without talking to people?

Well...provided your promotions are worded correctly, classifieds, flyers,
direct mail, etc are all quite acceptable.  However, the best form of
contact is via the phone.  If you have a website, include that as well.

The main reason people don't talk to people or don't pick up the phone is
because they feel they don't have the answers.  I suggest that you learn
all about your company and how it benefits other people.  This will give
you confidence and you'll never hesitate to talk to people.  Include these
benefits in your promotions.

If you can't learn enough about your company to build confidence, maybe
it's not the company for you.

Good luck with your prospecting and good luck with your business.

Charles Green

P.S. - Don't underestimate the value of including a URL in your signature.
Unfortunately, there was no link in the signature of your message.

You don't know when someone who is looking for your company will see your
signature.  I know from experience that there are people looking for ours.

Charles Green

Charles & Kerri Green are Tahitian Noni International Independent
Distributors with downline on three continents.  Their prospects
often praise their "ANY questions, ANY time, Just Ask!" policy.


===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.2)=============
From:Marcus Wommer

Hello Barnett Bando,

a very easy and nearly cost-free but highly effective way to advertise for
your business is using your business cards.

Here is what I do:

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You have various designs and layout to select from.

Then I distribute my cards to everybody I am doing any kind of business
with. I give them to the delivery boy (Newspaper and Home Heating Oil), I
leave them in restaurants and bars when paying my bills etc. Just give
them to anybody you are in contact with - you might be surprised you will
have a look at your website.

Just make sure you have a personal email and your website on it so that
contacting you / visiting your website is easy.

I am sure you will find some great ideas at the above website.

I can only assure you that this method is working for me.

Check it out and get your Free Business Cards at

Kind regards

Marcus Wommer

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.3)=============
From:Cathy Wagner

Hi Barnett,

For me, the most effective form of online advertising is interacting with others
via forums and discussion lists. Also writing articles and talking to people in
chat rooms has been very effective for me.

While I have been able to get visits using all kinds of free advertising
(including start pages and FFA's,) forums, discussion lists and articles have
brought in sign ups. And my sales ratio among those I have personally talked to
is much higher than among those who just see the site.

I group these things together, even though they may not sound related, because
they are not like "advertising" where you have to write an ad. These methods are
more like free publicity where you get to display your expertise in front of a
group who is interest in what you are saying.

For example, if you go to a busy business forum you have access to a large group
of people who are interested in learning about business and eager to pick up
tips and shortcuts.

For me this is ideal. I give away tips, ideas and feedback and if people like
what I have to say, they will click through to my site which is included with my
signature. People actually get a sample of what I offer at my site before they
ever see it.

It is the same with writing articles to submit to business related ezines or
meeting people in a business chat room. Someone who is subscribed to a business
ezine or who enters a business chat room is already targeted for me to some
extent. The people that run these things provide a steady stream of people who
are naturally interested in what I am offering.

Many online marketers never realize the full potential of free publicity. The
truth is there are forums, discussion lists, ezines and chat rooms that relate
to just about every topic you can think of. Any product or service with wide
public appeal can certainly find places online where interested prospects

Someone who is selling women's clothing could frequent women's forums or write
an article about why it is so much better to buy clothing online. Someone who is
selling nutritional supplements could visit health forums and answer questions
like "What can I use for this problem?" Someone who is selling web hosting could
let small business owners know that their prices are the best by posting the
fact regularly in a business forum.

It takes persistence and creativity to use these methods to their fullest
potential, but it is worth. While it involves a little extra effort, it won't
take anything out of your budget.

Have a Profitable Day,

Cathy Wagner

ONE STOP Internet Business Services
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information, tips and recommendations.


===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.1)=============
From:Ken Zito
Subject:Getting visitors to my website

Becky Brown wrote.

>I am very new to internet marketing.  I have signed up for countless
>opportunities to make money on the internet, and have lost some money in
>the process.  I am currently unemployed and working at home would work out
>very well for me.
>My problem is adding things such as HTML codes, visitor lists, etc.  I
>need step-by-step instructions.  I have no problem copying codes; my
>problem comes in when I can't copy these codes to my website.  Help!!!

Ms. Brown that was something that threw me in the beginning too. The
formula is pretty basic though (as long as you are not looking to get too
fancy). Take a look at my site( ) and see what I
mean.The first line of the html code refers to the site
you want to send visitors to( <a href=""> The second
line is what displays the banner that visitors will click. It consists of
the location where the banner is saved and the url of the actual banner.
ex: <img src="> . It is not as
confusing as it sounds. If you want, email me at and  I will try to talk you through it a bit
better. As far as lists go that really can be as simple as adding a page
to your site(,html) there are also many free
javascript and html forms out there. Try and Hope this helps a bit.
Ken Zito-owner


===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.2)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:Getting visitors to my website


You wrote:

"My problem is adding things such as HTML codes, visitor lists, etc. I
need step-by-step instructions.  I have no problem copying codes; my
problem comes in when I can't copy these codes to my website.  Help!!!"

If you just need help with HTML, here's a site that may offer some of what
you need:

They also have a forum where you can ask questions.

Good luck,

John Olson

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.1)=============
From:Amalia Sotiriadou
Subject:Putting value into perspective

William, thank you for giving us the insight on those expensive seminars.
I have been hit several times to join and/or to promote them and I have
resisted - now, I'm glad I did, since you confirmed my suspicions.
I also agree with you that there are very few good products out there that
are worth promoting, which does account for the 95% failure rate. I never
became involved in Egads simply because I had too much in my plate, but I
have used the CCI services in the past, and I've been fairly happy with
On the other hand, it is wrong to attack all MLM simply because there are
so many scams out there. MLM is the best way for a small operation to
expand, especially in this wide, wide world of the Internet. Prospective
affiliates simply have to use common sense and do a bit of research before
sinking their money into a business. There are good, honest operations out
there that truly try to give the best value for your money. Let's be a
little careful about lumping everything into one basket and condemning it,
just because they use an affiliate system that is actually one of the best
ways to work in theory.




===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.2)=============
From:Mireille Carrier
Subject:Putting value into perspective

Funny Bogdan that you put a "disclaimer" at the end of William's
advertising post.  As I was reading it, I thought "wow, nice ad,
William!".  :)

William says "It is pretty clear that it doesn't take a brain surgeon to
realize MLM and hype go hand in hand. "

Well, hype is everywhere.  If you watch TV, you see hype.  If you read
newspapers, you see hype.  If you drive, you see hype on billboards.  Why?
HYPE SELLS!  And it doesn't matter where, how, who or what.  If you don't
hype your product or service it will NOT sell.

To associate hype with MLM only is absurd.  High priced items don't sell
and are not attractive to people?

If you take stores that sell overpriced clothing versus Sears, will you
look and feel better in a suit that costs you $1000 rather than $150?  Why
do people buy the more expensive clothing?

If you compare a Ferrari with a Honda Prelude, will you drive 200mph
anywhere just because they say the Ferrari CAN do this speed and the
Prelude can't?  Why do people buy a Ferrari when they can't use all the
best selling feature of the car?  Many have tried and died for it.  Was it
worth the extra money they paid for it?

Would you buy a fridge that can make ice on its own and pay more for it
than just a regular fridge when you can make ice for FREE?  Are these
people falling for hype you think?

Why do people go into debt over their heads to buy a $300,000 house rather
than stay within their means and purchase one for $200,000?  Will it be
made with better and higher quality materials?  You hear horror stories
about new houses every day.  But hey...  It's bigger, although they don't
need the extra space, there's a triple attached garage but they only have
two cars, hardwood floors vs carpets, etc. etc. etc.

People buy expensive, HYPED products every single day.  Why?  Because it's
THEIR CHOICE!  And why does it work and sell so well?  Because it's WELL
promoted and HYPED to attract people's money!

Better value for their buck?  Many MLM that sell health products offer
better VALUE and BETTER quality for the money people pay.  Not all of them
mind you, but many do.

I'm not anti MLM but I'm not 100% pro either.  I did enough research on
MLM to understand the basics and how it works. The majority join MLM to
make their financial dreams come true based on hype rather than joining
for the products they would be selling and USING. They don't use the
products, they don't understand that they have to make a SHOPPING decision
to shop through their MLM, they don't believe in what they're selling and
why, they can't sell, they're afraid to talk to strangers on the phone or
in person, blah blah blah.  So they fail.  The recruiters are as much at
fault as the people who join them because they don't tell people that they
will have to do any of this BEFORE taking their money.  And if people
don't do it, they won't succeed.

You're right about one thing:  many recruiters don't care if their
downline ever succeeds.  As long as THEY get paid, that's all they care
about.  But the same could be said about many real life companies...

As with anything, on or offline, MLM or anything else, a little research
first could save you a lot of money later.


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.3)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:Putting value into perspective


Well, I must admit I'm replying mostly because of Bogdan's request for
comments after your latest post against MLM's. So...

Aside from the fact that the last half of your post was an out and out
promo piece for E-Gads and CCI, it is interesting to see what you think is
a valued opportunity.

First, E-Gads...

I haven't seen this one in a long time. I remember when it first came out
and getting several E-mails promoting it. I can't say much about it, it's
a product which you can either get excited about or not. You can sell it
whether or not you purchase it, and that's good. So all I can say is....
Good luck with it...

Now, as for CCI...

I have never understood how this thing keeps going...

Let me explain, one of the things that I tell people to watch out for when
they first look at a new program or opportunity is, whether it's all about
the Money to be made or the Product. Most if not all the Schemes and
Scam's out there, are all about the money and hardly mention a product.

Now, look at CCI... What are the first pages all about? In fact, what are
most of the pages about...

The Money...

There isn't even a Link labeled "Products" is there.

Oh there are products and there are benefits. But it's ALL tied to the
Money. Is there one thing that you can market, retail, that doesn't have
the Money to be made as a big part of the come-on?

The products, it seems, are all related to promotion, not something the
normal guy down the street needs. Which is okay if the only people you
market to need the stuff. Oh, but then there's the benefits, savings or
earnings doing normal things like paying the mortgage and shopping and
insurance and buying a car and so on... But it's all tied to the money and
bringing others into the club I guess... Maybe I'm wrong, but the money to
pay for all those benefits has to come from somewhere.

All I can say is they must be doing something right to be marketing this
way and still be around. To me it sure looks fishy and I've never
understood it. When I look at all the benefits, thousands of dollars a
month for this or that, once you qualify, it makes me wonder where all
that money comes from and how long and what does it take to qualify for
all these things?

I guess to me it all sounds like some clever way to take a small amount of
money from a lot of people for some promotional products and then give a
small number of people a lot of money.

I'm not counting the so called benefits because they all seem to be large
Dollar amounts to go toward this or that thing.

William, I know you've been in this for a long time now and I know you
don't see anything wrong with it. But can you see why I do?

Does anyone else see a problem with CCI?

It will be interesting to read what others have to say about it.

Personally, I just can't see how this deal can work and still deliver on
all it promises. If you'd care to explain, I'll be listening.

Good luck William,

John Olson

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.4)=============
From:Cathy Wagner
Subject:Putting value into perspective

Hi Bogdan,

I really must say that I was highly amused as I read
William's post. It looks as though he is actually
promoting some of that MLM stuff he hates so much
and is so quick to criticize. I don't think I would have
replied at all if it hadn't been for your note.

So, as per your suggestion, I took a good look at both
of the program links that William included in his post.

The first, E-Gads, looks very much like any other hyped
up mlm program. Not being up on my MLMese I don't
even know what "Unlimited Width X 6 Deep Uni-Level"

My problem with this type of site is that they always
seem to assume an unrealistic sales level. 6x6 = $100,000
just sounds silly. So many affiliates have difficulty making
even one or two sales, they never even come close to
filling their matrix and earning what the site promised them
in the first place. Certainly someone who signs up for free
without purchasing their own copy of the game will never
come close to realizing $100,000.

I looked at the game, my children are way too young for
it. What does this mean, "Sounds EASY, right? Well,
keep this in mind: The object of the game is to WIN. But,
the secondary object is to NOT let your opponents win.
This is what makes E-GADS! so exciting!" I'm not sure
if this really sounds like family entertainment. I don't go for
the whole I win and you LOSE philosophy. (Of course I
know that in every game some win and some lose, but I
don't want to teach my children that it is cool to undercut
someone so that they win.)

One more thought on this product is that it is not
consumable. Anyone who tried to sell this game for profit
would have to continually search for new prospects
because once you have one, you probably don't need

The other program was Core Club International. I clicked
William's link and got a page with hardly anything on it
except a promise for $4,000 a month for the rest of my life.
I have to click again to view what I am sure is a list of very
nice sounding bonuses and a lucrative pay plan if I manage
to sell it to however many people. This $4,000 is probably
what the top earners receive when they refer 5 friends and
those friends refer 5 friends and so on and so on and so on.
No thanx, I didn't even click through the first page.

I see William's list of perks in his message, but I can name
at least 3 other programs that offer pretty much the same
things. The addition of a prescription plan (reminds me of
SFI) and long distance calling/game card don't do
anything for me.

Good luck William. I will look for these programs on the
scam report after disgruntled affiliates complain that their
advertising claims are totally unrealistic.

Have a Profitable Day,

Cathy Wagner

ONE STOP Internet Business Services
The Mother Lode of free and low cost
marketing tips and tools.



===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.1)=============
From:Lois M. Jeary
Subject:E-mail Marketing Dying?

Hi Bogdan and Fellow Adlanders,

Garland Coulson stated the following: "I thought I would ask other members
of this list to
share what methods they have used successfully to get
information to people without e-mail.

RSS feeds look like a good possible option, but  I am
concerned that people have to download a reader and
the sites where RSS feeds are listed seem cumbersome
and not beginner-friendly.

Anyone with some experiences with RSS or other
systems they can share?"

I started publishing an ezine in May of 2001 and I loved it.  Until about
a year ago when my autoresponders were spammed, all my website links were
harvested and it seemed that all I did was plough through email.

I use MailWasher Pro now and that's been a blessing in disguise.  Spam is
steadily increasing - I was sent 9,782 messages this past week and just
over 300 of those were legitimate.

Then I discovered Quikonnex which makes publishing using an rss feed a
snap.  You don't need to have any techie knowledge because the creators
have done all that for you.  They have even taken it a step further and
created their own cross-browser, cross-platform reader (QuikView) for
subscribers who don't want to download a reader to receive the feed.

I have been publishing using the Quikonnex service exclusively since
September and have suspended all my autoresponders for now. Quikonnex
offers support for all members.  They have an extensive forum and we are
building a community of like-minded publishers who just want to get back
to publishing.

They also offer an in-house private messaging system called QMTP which lets
you keep in touch without using email at all.  It's easy for your
subscribers to provide instant feedback.

Most of the rss programs out there expect you to figure out all the techie
stuff.  If you just want to publish good, reliable information for your
readers in the easiest way possible.  Quikonnex delivers hands down!

If you have any questions about the service, please feel free to contact

Lois M. Jeary

Quikonnex lets you connect with your subscribers.


===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (5.1)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:Andy Sparks - Congratulations to John Olson


Well, what can I say, it's a New Year and with that comes change. And
that's what I've been doing for a while now. It's just moved into a higher
gear since the first of the year.

I've tried to find and offer things I think will benefit my customers, and
it's been quite a while since I just thought of the money when I joined or
promoted something. If you've read many of my posts the last few months
you'll hear me repeatedly call for finding Good Products first and to
Never Join something for the Money, join for the Product or Service.

If I haven't driven that home here, I certainly have with the articles
I've written and posted on the TGIF Marketing site. I feel I'm beginning
to sound like a broken record.

As for GP falling into the "What do I get" category... What did I get?

Over the years promoting and defending GP, not much. At least money wise.
I did meet and get to know some wonderful people and learned a lot from
them. But I had to look at what GP offers right now and project into the
future what it is likely to be able to offer, and based on past promises
and delays, I don't think it'll be much. Like you, I felt that the GP
model, what it was supposed to be, was great. Join free, use the site and
earn from that usage. But... well we both know what happened...

I do hope something happens to GP that will benefit all those wonderful
members and justify their years of trust, but I can't hold my breath any
longer. I can't recommend it or promote it now.

I wish it could have been different, but then I wish a lot of things could
have been different.

Thanks again for your thoughts,

John Olson

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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (1)=============
From:Paul Uttermohlen
Subject:Need best safelists and exchanges


I am compiling a list of the best safelists and traffic exchanges. Can
anyone here share with me what you think the best ones are? Some are
obvious stand outs, but on the road to finding a few jewels I walked
across alot of hot coals - they looked bright, but I got burned in the

Anyway, the bad ones are certainly easy to find. What I want to know about
are the ones that are good that might be over looked for one reason or

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Paul



==============N e w P o s t i n g  (2)=============
From:Robert Provencal
Subject:Need help with advertising

I am retired and disabled and need to work out of my home.
I have started a business and need help on ways to advertise.  It is
relatively new and I am doing some free advertising but cannot see any
results.  Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated.

Robert Provencal



==============N e w P o s t i n g  (3)=============
From:Andreas Papakostas
Subject:Success on Internet

With so many ways to promote out there, who is having success as a rookie
in online marketing of a product and what are you using?

Andreas Papakostas

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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (4)=============
From:Bogdan Fiedur
Subject:Help us and be rewarded.

I was talking about Adlandpro Community in my "From Editor" section but
I would like to start a new thread and  ask questions what would you
feel as a necessary features for such a community to be most effective.
I welcome any ideas and we will implement them if we can fit them
into our concept.
If we choose to implement your idea, your name and link to your
website will be entered in a special location of the community as
a contributing member.

Bogdan Fiedur




=====================Site Review Request  (1)===============
From:David B

Hi folks,

I thought I'd take advantage of the site review to see what you thought of
my page. My main concern is download time. I am on a fast internet
connection so I don't know how it compares for dial ups. Although the
adland paid ads are important they can take longer and therefore I don't
mind them making a late entrance as they are all through the page and thus
viewers will see them eventually IF they stick. I am a self taught page
builder and just focus on the basics. I don't include anything regarding
flash or java(and personally don't prefer them anyhow) unless it is copied
page code for a sponsor.

If you could tell me if this page grabs your attention and triggers your
curiosity from what you see in the front window (what is visible on your
screen when you first click on the page) that would be helpful. This page
goes to a lot of page exchanges, that's why I want to know about the speed
and curiosity factors.

Any other tips will be considered and welcome.

Rip away friends,

Thanks for your time,

David B.
Brevco Marketing.

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=====================Site Review Response  (1)===============
From:Andy Sparks

You are doing a number of things right.  You have your own domain, kept
your site simple and refrained from making wild income claims.

I could be wrong but this appears to be your own deal instead of an
affiliate site.  If so it is nicely done.

You are trying to do what many other people have done in the past, putting
together a package of information products and recruiting a large number
of affiliate to sell it for you.  Good luck, it is much harder than most
people believe.

In order for you to be successful, you will need a huge amount of traffic
that is interested in a business opportunity. I will recommend two things.
Spend some money with Bogdan on banner impressions at the top of the page
of Adlandpro, pay the extra to have him make you a banner.
Also join as an affiliate because you earn advertising credits. you can include
access to free classifieds in your package or as a giveaway for visiting
your site. Use your affiliate link, it gives you an opportunity to
monetize the visitors, that don't buy.

The next thing will cost you a little money but it is the best money you
will ever spend to build an Internet business. Go to and purchase a sitebuildit hosting
package from Dr. Ken Evoy.

Here is your problem, there are untold millions of people promoting
business opportunities on the Internet and your site has a very poor
chance of getting good search engine ranking.  I think your site is fine,
it just isn't going to be found and you need targeted traffic to succeed.

Build a site using Dr. Ken's program and write a search engine optimized
page(a separate page)for each of the ebooks and services that are included
in your package. Give them good information, like the page about mini
sites, actually tell them why mini sites are good include some
disadvantages and make a serious review about using mini sites to promote a
product.  Include a link to where they can get the
product.  Don't make a sales pitch on this page, provide the link for more
information.  Let do the selling.  Your new site is
all about information.

Continue this process for each of the items included in your package.  Now
you are an information source and a help instead of just another web site
hawking wares.  Dr. Ken will get you listed in the search engines and
interested parties will arrive at your site.

Look at these two scenarios and think it over.

I arrive at you site and you say, Buy all these things for $15.  I am most
likely thinking, to good to be true, just another guy wanting my money.

I go to the search engine and look up mini sites.  I read an informative
page that gives me good information about mini sites and provides a link
to get what I want at a reasonable price.  I arrive at your site and I can
get what I want for $15.

Which one is most likely to produce a sale?

One more thing about your site, your product lists have links for more
information.  They don't provide more information, they send you back to
the home page,Bad Idea. Make the links say buy now and send them to the
payment link.  When you want someone to buy, don't send them back to the
front, lead them in the direction you want them to go.  If you don't like
buy now, use purchase or some other wording.  When you say more
information and send them where they have already been, they leave and you
lose the sale.

Andy Sparks

If you are not one of Bogdan's affiliates, you are making a mistake.


=====================Site Review Response  (2)===============
From:Paul Penafiel

Patrick, you have a great looking site, very simple,
easy to navigate, and very professional looking.  There
are only a few things I can recommend that might help you.

About us page - prospect buyers usually wants to know
who they are buying the products from.  Who's going to
keep them updated on new materials that you might want
to add.  You might want to add your picture or your
background or phone number where they can contact you.

Perceived Value - A few of the ebooks being offered are
outdated and can be obtained for free somewhere else.
Where are the bonuses, to raise the value you might want
to add more bonuses or some sort of money back guarantee or 100 percent
satisfaction guarantee statement.

Testimonials - The more statements from satisfied
customers the better, it will add more credibility to your offer.

Check your competitions - If you check this site out,
you will notice that they have products and bonuses that
are in high demand right now such as php scripts and
high quality web templates.

Hope that helps.

Paul Penafiel

Online Marketer




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Once there was a little boy who lived in the country. They had to use an
outhouse, and the little boy hated it because it was hot in the summer, cold in
the winter and stank all the time. The outhouse was sitting on the bank of a
creek and the boy determined that one day he would push that outhouse into the

One day after a spring rain, the creek was swollen so the little boy decided
today was the day to push the outhouse into the creek. So he got a large stick
and started pushing. Finally, the outhouse toppled into the creek and floated

That night his dad told him they were going to the woodshed after supper.
Knowing that meant a spanking, the little boy asked why. The dad replied,"
Someone pushed the outhouse into the creek today. It was you, wasn't it, son?"
The boy answered yes. Then he thought a moment and said,

"Dad, I read in school today that George Washington chopped down a cherry tree
and didn't get into trouble because he told the truth."

The dad replied, "Well, son, George Washington's father wasn't in that cherry


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