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C o n t i n u i n g   D i s c u s s i o n s (8)
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1.Herbal Life
~Phillip Skinner
~William Jaroske
~Mireille

2.Most cost effective marketing on the web!
~David B
~Eric McArdle
~Cathy Wagner

3.Over 1 month - $0   Anyone ELse
~Eric McArdle

4.I'm looking for good affiliate/mlm programs
~Adrian Elman
~Mireille
~Laurie Delk
~Charles Green
~Kari Lappi

5.Scamfreezone.org
~Mireille

6.Any help in getting an online business going.
~Audra Schwalm

7.Newcomer
~Cathy Wagner

8.Pre building a downline was on my Wish List!
~John Olson


N e w     P o s t s  (4)
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1.Lynn Hayner
~Internet scams

2.Glo Williams
~Getting  Started

3.John Halls
~Advertising Ethics

4.Lynn James
~Any advise will be appreciated!


Site Review Requests   (2)
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1.Kindra Martinenko
~ http://www.cascadesinternetsolutions.com

2.Roy Houston
~ http://www.biztechteam.com


Site Review Responses   (4)
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1.Mike Towle
~ http://www.cheap-phone-service-online.com

2.Mike Towle
~ http://www.winningmostlottery.com/

3.Robert Lee
~ http://www.cheap-phone-service-online.com

4.Robert Lee
~ http://www.winningmostlottery.com


G u e s t   A r t i c l e    (1)
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1.There is only one way to build your business...
By Russ Wilson

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Greetings All

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We send a message to advertiser that their site has
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You visit advertiser site where you might be interested
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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.1)=============
From:Phillip Skinner
Subject:Herbal Life

Hi all how's it going...
I'm not a Herbal Life affiliate "But I was" some 25 years or so ago And had
the privilege to be on one of the first rallies that was held by Herbal
Life at a Hotel in London can't remember the name now? though
..  But what I do remember is the ground breaking raz-a-mataz and the
quality speakers like Zig Ziglar Larry Thompson etc etc that entertained
and educated the massive turn out of wannabe's that are probably all
millionaires now if they stayed with the opportunity from that day on ..
.. Unfortunately I was one of those sceptical types back then and thought
I could do better bouncing from one program to another ...I laugh to my
self now ...as my mind set was that I could earn a large income by getting
other people to do my work for me .ha ha har ...what a joke ...

Now I'm older 58 actually and have the vast knowledge of what Not to
Do ...that could do some of these whipper snappers etc.the power of good
and definitely shave 3 years of learning and searching from their journeys
of global wealth..tick a tick timing

If you can find a way to contact me my name is Phillip Skinner I will
gladly share my KNOW- LEDGE with you I'm going to ad my private email
address at the end of this mail and I'm not sure if this is allowed

As I am now retired and have the time and NRG <~~~ chuckle.. to do this
for free Why??
Because I have grand children and would love them to come into the global
arena when they become that age and I need the practice to become one of
the best Mentors that I can be
So helping me to achieve this quest ill share what I know with you free.OK
phillip-skinner@excite.com  and don't worry about getting any more email
from me than a one off because just one will clarify what I would love to
share with any wannabe who needs some help to there next step??
as in thousands of pounds worth of material that I have bought and need
the jog to unveil and share i.e.:

Never promise something you can't deliver.

All the best to you in your own search for health wealth and happiness
Sincerely Phillip Skinner

After a certain point money is meaningless. It ceases to be the goal. The
game is what counts..Aristotle Onassis (1900-1975


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.2)=============
From:William Jaroske
Subject:Herbal Life

Dries van Heerden said

Quote
"Herbalife has over thirty-five million testimonials to the safety and
effectiveness of its wonderful products on file. William, you should
really do some research before you badmouth a company of Herbalife's
standing and it's products."

End quote

Apparently you go overboard throwing a fit when I've stated the truth. As
for doing research. It maybe worthwhile reviewing the information at
Health Product and Herbalife Scams.
http://www.easyaccessclub.com/z_health_internet_cureall.html

False medical claims about its products.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/herbalife/herbalife8.html

Need I say anything more.

William Jaroske


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.3)=============
From:Mireille
Subject:Herbal Life

Mireille

Dries, I couldn't agree with you more!

When I read Mr. Jaroske's post on Herbalife, I had to sit on my hands not
to reply.  LOL  Was I surprised?  Of course not!  Mr. Jaroske's domain
name, dumbexpert, says it all.  Couldn't be more appropriate!

I wouldn't worry at all about his comments on anything.  Sometimes an
"ignore" attitude when no ignore button exists is the best solution.

All the best!

Mireille


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.1)=============
From:David B
Subject:Most cost effective marketing on the web!

Hi Quentin,

For the first point, what you want to do is use the generous facility this
newsletter gives you when you ask a question and any time you send out an
email. It is the box at the bottom called the signature file. If you type
a few words giving people an idea of what you are offering and put your
URL in it you can market your opportunity the many fine marketers
reading this digest like us. Now on to my main topic.

One of the best ways to cost effectively increase your traffic and
marketing is through traffic exchanges. These are quality hits from people
who are selling and looking at business opportunities all day long. Yes,
many are savvy and tough minded to convince having seen most of the best
opportunities but on the flip side, once you have one of them on your team
you quite often have a determined tough minded team member who is not
going to quit at the first sign of adversity. There are even a few
marketing stars in the mix who will be your ticket to financial
independence. Many of them often contribute to this newsletter.

I get referrals every day to my programs so don't think that everyone in
the traffic exchanges have 'seen it all'. It is just not true. Look at
this newsletter. It grows by about 400 members EVERY WEEK! There are
thousands of people pouring onto the web every day to see your opportunity
and/or product

I have been in and around the traffic exchange industry for over a year
now and have been able to separate the good deals from the great ones. I
publish a monthly free report on one of the best ways to get about 2000
quality traffic exchange hits per day to any website without having to
click for credits, build a referral network to do the same or surf in an
autosurf ecxchange.

Because my report is free many people will take my advice and run off
benefiting from the information and giving nothing back in return. In
order to make sure that I get a benefit back for the free info I give to
all marketers who are interested, I make the report available ONLY to my
team in Share Ad Space. I have found that when people join Share Ad Space
they see what a great resource it is and they tend to use it which
generates benefits back to me as their sponsor. In return I not only give
them the hit generating report but an opportunity to turn those hits into
a revenue generating website. That is called reciprocation and it is
another effective tool you can use as you learn the best methods of
marketing.

You can read more about the benefits of my free report by clicking on the
link in my signature file below. All the stats are there in regards to my
traffic and you can choose to move forward from there and join SAS for
free if you feel the report will benefit you.

I hope that helps and the best of success to you in your web marketing
endeavours. Three last bits of advice for you that will serve you well.

JUST DON'T QUIT! KEEP ON STUDYING! ASK MANY QUESTIONS!

It will come to you if you follow those three bits of advice!

David @ Brevco Marketing

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.2)=============
From:Eric McArdle
Subject:Most cost effective marketing on the web!

Hi Quinton,

Are you looking for the most cost effective way to increase traffic or the
most cost effective way to generate sales?

I'm hoping it's the second one ;)

If you're looking to just increase your traffic, go waste time with the
traffic and banner exchanges.

If you want to increase TARGETED TRAFFIC to your site and generate sales,
use Google Adwords.

http://www.google.com/adwords

Pick up Perry Marshall's free  ecourse, "Five Days to Success with Google
AdWords"

This should give you a good idea if google adwords are good for you or
not.

You should also take the time to try and get your site in the major search
engines.  I'm not talking #1, but somewhere on the first page.

You should also try running a publication revolving around your products
topic or your prospects interest.  You can also go and advertise in ezines
with a targeted audience for your product or service.

Hope this helps

Regards,
Eric McArdle


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.3)=============
From:Cathy Wagner
Subject:Most cost effective marketing on the web!

Hi Q.L.,

It would really help if you had told us what kind of business you have along
with a link so that we could see it. Without knowing anything about you, I will
give you a generic answer. :)

Safelists are still considered by most to be a good method of online
advertising. Your results will depend on your ad copy and which lists you use.

Running ads in ezines is also a good way generate traffic. Again, your ad copy
is very important and even more critical is choosing the right ezines.

Free online publicity is, in my opinion, the most cost effective way to generate
traffic, especially if you are offering some kind of personalized service.
Writing articles for reprint and contributing to forums and discussion groups is
an excellent way to let targeted prospects know what you have to offer.

Publicity is more time consuming than simply placing ads, so you have to factor
that into your cost formula. But a good article can be placed at many, many
sites and ezines, giving you tremendous exposure.



Have a Profitable Day,

Cathy Wagner


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.1)=============
From:Eric McArdle
Subject:Over 1 month - $0   Anyone ELse

Hello Barbara,

There are tons of thousands of people that have been marketing online for
over 1 month that have made nothing!  Heck, I didn't start making much
until over a year!

Ok, so you advertised heavily for over a month and no result.

What do you do?

Keep it up.  Advertise even heavier for every month ahead.  You have to
keep a non-stop flow of advertising going to gain constant exposure, so
keep at it.

Two possibilities for why you haven't made any money

*You are promoting a useless and/or worn out product

*You are using useless and/or ineffective advertising methods.

Make sure your product is "In-Demand" .  Are your advertising sources
reliable?  Are your products ads compelling and unique?  If not, you might
have to go back to the drawing board and setup many different types of
advertising techniques to get an effective campaign going.

But all in all, you need to Be Patient!  One month is not that long and
I'm sure, with persistence and perseverance, four or five months down the
road you will start seeing your efforts pay off.

Patience! Key to Success

Hope this helps

To your online sucess,
Eric McArdle


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.1)=============
From:Adrian Elman
Subject:I'm looking for good affiliate/mlm programs

I tried with Altavista's Babelfish and I also tried Google's
translation tool but neither could put William Jaroske's
post into a language I could understand.

Are there any readers who can understand what these
statements from Adland Digest #389 were supposed
to mean?

"Well alot of MLM'ers seem to lose their shirt left and
right. Oops they really do lose their shirt."

"It absolutely makes no sense in the world why people
get involved with selling such garbage to earn a measly
dollars. Bloody Egypt!!"

"They spout off as much rhetoric and gobbly goop that
is so unbelievable. And some of them have very awful
attitudes. When someone questions their business in
the wrong way. Your likely to get cussed out. And what
do you think they are promoting? Yes Its that rip-off scams
that steals peoples hard earned dollars."

"The reactions I get from those kind of people are nothing
more then phyco-babble. I tell you some of the comments
they make are extremely laughable. And some of them
sign up for email Id addies such as boxfullofjunk and
I_got_fleas. etc etc."

Smile William, you are on Candid Camera!

By the way, I got a kick out of this one... "I tell you some
of the comments they make are extremely laughable."
You should be on stage mate, you party animal you!

Regards,
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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.2)=============
From:Mireille
Subject:I'm looking for good affiliate/mlm programs

Mireille

Howard, you say "I am looking for a new mlm opp and would like to know
what industry seems to be working the best."

Right there you could be setting yourself up for failure before you even
start.  NEVER, EVER join an affiliate program or MLM based solely on what
other people say about it or how much money you can make.  Do your own
research and trust your gut instincts.

It doesn't matter if your whole family is in a MLM, it doesn't matter if
all your friends are in a MLM.  If YOU don't believe in it, YOU won't make
it.

ALWAYS choose an opportunity because YOU believe in the products or
services you're selling.  It doesn't matter what the hottest deal of the
day is if you don't think it's something people need or want.  Or worse,
if YOU don't want it yourself!

Vitamins and other health related products are a huge market with aging
baby boomers.  But if you don't believe in vitamins, how are you going to
sell them? Unless you're a born salesman...

My website is about working at home and what to look for in legitimate
opportunities.  Have a look around, find out how you can recognize scams
and and the types of programs to avoid, what questions to ask and what
makes a good affiliate program.  Not everybody can recruit and train
others to succeed...  It's not as easy as it sounds.

Best of luck!

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.3)=============
From:Laurie Delk
Subject:I'm looking for good affiliate/mlm programs

To add my 2 cents (or more), not ALL MLM's or network marketing companies
ARE ALL bad. Yes, there are MANY that ARE nothing but scams and bad. But
there are also several that ARE GOOD - and you can earn a GOOD living if
you are in a company that is good, with good products, and a good support
team....etc.

I have been network marketing successfully for over 12 years. My husband
works a regular job 40+ hours a week, and I average triple the income he
makes, by staying at home, and taking care of him, our home, and our 4
children.

Now, I am not saying that is easy, and not everyone can do it - but I am
doing it - and have been for years - and I am not one of those that claim
to make $35,000 per month, but like I said - I triple my husband's
income - and I think that is pretty good!

I agree totally with what everyone said about finding a company that is
Good Products
Honest and Good Support System
Financially NOT in trouble
Good market to sell to
Cash Payouts
Residual Income

Although, also, unless you are a *seasoned* marketer, and even some then -
need to be on a TEAM that is successful, and supportive as well. CHOOSING
a good sponsor that will SUPPORT you and HELP you to get where you want to
be can be JUST as important as anything else - (unless you want to learn
the hard way - which some do - MANY don't and that is why they fail in
NWM or MLM)

Honestly, I did most of it on my own - ALOT of trials and errors over the
years, but I HAVE made it - and am doing quite well. (I bought a new
Excursion and financed it for only 3 years at $1357.00/mo, pay for 3 kids
in a Private Christian school (costs more than my house note! LOL), and
have $$ for groceries, saving for my oldest College, and more.....

BUT, I have also not forgot where I started from, and what I have learned.
One of the #1 things you should look for after you FIND A GOOD COMPANY, is
to FIND A GOOD LEADER you want to work with. And you can figure that out
quickly if you talk on the phone a few times or even email -

How fast do they respond to your ?'s -
 Is it right away - or days before you hear from them

How much time do they take with you?
 Do they try to answer your questions as fast as they can, or do they
spend time with you, and make sure you understand it all

Are they confident in knowing all about the company they are with?
 When you ask a ?, do you get general answers, or actual answers giving
you solid info about the company, products and compensation plan

Ask about how many people they have on their team, and some info about
them -
 Can you contact them? Ask them how the support is, and was AFTER they
signed up - it should be JUST AS GOOD, as the support was BEFORE they
signed up - not that you are forgotten once you are on the team and gave
your money.

Ask how they plan to HELP you to be successful after joining their team
 Not how they will do it all for you - Get rich schemes - are just that -
schemes. But you CAN succeed with the right company if you WORK it - as
your leader what kind of tips and tricks they use and if they will help
you implement them after you join their team.

These are just a few notes - but just to say the fact that there ARE good
MLM or NWM companies out there - and you just have to be careful - not
make rash decisions, look for them, and also look for the leaders you want
to work with as well.


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (4.4)=============
From:Charles Green
Subject:I'm looking for good affiliate/mlm programs

Good morning all,

In the last Adland Digest two separate business guys shared their six
requirements for a successful or genuine company...particularly an
MLM company.

As we have been involved with Tahitian Noni International for two and
half years and so strongly believe in the company, the products and the
compensation, I figured I'd see how it rates on the twelve criteria.


Roger Pearson wrote:
> In examining successful companies, I found that they shared common
> traits.  The major ones were:
>
> 1)It is a legal Corporation.

Tahitian Noni International is a privately-owned, debt-free company.


> 2)It has complete contact information including telephone support.

Tahitian Noni International not only has telephone support, depending
on the country it is a free call number or local call cost only.  In
addition they have other lines (again free or local cost) for customer
support, other languages, the contest line to enter to win an awesome
holiday in Tahiti, etc, etc.


> 3)It has a product that could be sold outside of the network
> marketing structure. .......................... You must have a
> product that you can sell and make a profit even if you do not
> sponsor anyone into a downline.

Once someone experiences a good result with a "health/wellness"
product when nothing else seemed to work, they will tell anyone who
will listen.  It is not unusual to have dozens of people ordering
through your ID who have no desire to become distributors.  I allow
anyone, anywhere to order through our ID at wholesale.  But, if
someone orders at retail, we'd receive a retail commission.

Since TAHITIAN NONI Juice was launched almost eight years ago,
hundreds of competing products have popped up.  Many of these are sold
via traditional methods.


> 4)It has a product that would increase in need and is hard to
> duplicate.  If you look at all the program offers on the 'net, you
> will find it is difficult to find one that offers a product that is
> hard to duplicate and whose market will increase into the foreseeable
> future. For instance, a new program marketing coffee recently came to
> life. Within a month, there were two more programs promoting coffee.
> You can buy coffee from a number of different wholesalers to resell.

This is one area where noni is like coffee.  Because our company became
such a huge success so quickly, dozens of competitors sprung up soon
after.  There are now noni wholesalers who each sell to several
companies.  These companies have no way of knowing the background of
their noni.

TNI has full control from the tree to the bottle.  TNI can trace each
batch back to the island it came from and in some cases to the trees
and the pickers.

Anyone can come up with a new noni product, but no-one can duplicate
the processing, the unique flavoring system, and various other steps
that go into bringing Tahitian Noni to the world.  And, no-one else can
claim that their product is the only one recommended and endorsed by
world experts such as Dr Neil Solomon, Dr Ralph Heinicke and Dr Anne
Hirazumi-Kim.  That's right, competitors often use great statements by
these doctors about Tahitian Noni when promoting products that these
doctors may have never even seen.

The market continues to increase.  TNI has maintained around 90% of
the world market share.  Monthly sales have continued to increase
almost every month.  Currently sales exceed US$41m per month.  TNI
reached US$2 billion in sales last June.


> 5)It has a product that can be marketed on a global basis. The world
> is definitely growing into a unified economy. ...regulatory hurdles
> in the various countries, and is/has taken the necessary steps to
> address them so you can indeed do business on a global basis.

TNI operates in 73 countries worldwide with more countries opening soon
and products distributed in others already.  They have a physical
presence (offices, warehouses, staff) in at least 31 countries  (I say
"at least", because I don't have the latest figure).

TNI follows all the necessary procedures to ensure they are in
compliance with all the laws in each of the countries where they
operate.  In some cases, the process has taken years.  When their
products became the first noni products to receive European Novel Food
Approval last year, TNI officially opened in several new countries.
That process took three years.


> 6) There is an outside sales requirement (You must sell product to a
> non-distributor to receive bonus).

This is not currently a feature of TNI's compensation plan, but I
haven't seen this stifle anyone's success with TNI and TNI continues to
grow and grow and remain stable.

> Whether you work in network marketing or a brick & mortar store, no
> one makes a profit until something is sold.

That is correct.  To be eligible for ALL bonuses and commissions, a
distributor must be on Case AutoShip.  A person with the base rank of
"Distributor" qualifies for commissions on three levels.


> the majority of a company's income should be made from the profits on
> its products, not from distributor fees.

TNI pays NO commissions on the US$35 Registration Fee.  A starter kit
is provided free as part of registration, includes no products*, and
again no commissions are paid.  * Some starter kits may include
samples, but I don't know.


> Now, these certainly are not all the things you need to look at.
> There is also the marketing plan, the percentage of gross income that
> is returned to the distributors, and a host of other factors.

In my opinion, TNI's marketing plan is the fairest I have seen.
53% is paid back to distributors.  There is no break-off to the company.
If a distributor doesn't qualify for a bonus, the computer looks upline
to find the first one who does qualify.  TNI pays out every cent the
plan says it will.

The head company, Morinda, has joint-ventured with other companies, has
purchased rights to a number of products, has financed a feature movie,
"The Legend of Johnny Lingo" and much more.  Profits from these go into
a fourth bonus pool which is shared amongst qualifying distributors.
Their policy is, "We cut you in, we don't cut you out".  Imagine
earning money from new joint ventures without having to do any extra
work yourself.


Russ Wilson wrote:

> I feel a good program should offer:
>
> 1. Honest product.
> 2. Good support.
> 3. Have adequate financial backing.
> 4. Large and varied market.
> 5. Cash payouts.
> 6. Residual income.

TNI's products are extensively tested, there are thousands of
testimonials, there is a lot of ongoing scientific research.  I know
the products work because I have used them.  I have complete faith in
the honesty of the company and in the products they offer.

TNI's support, sponsor support, and upline support is the best I've
seen.  TNI makes available so much for our benefit and at cost price,
even I am amazed.  Most companies use tools, literature, etc as a
source of profit.  TNI has said that these will never be a profit
center.  Tahitian Noni International markets TAHITIAN NONI brand
products to the world, not books, tapes, videos and brochures.

TNI is debt free and continuing to build new offices, processing/
manufacturing plants and more.

Tahitian Noni International is a truly "International" company.
Our market is global.

Cash payouts?  I'm not sure what was meant by this criteria.
Commissions and bonuses are paid directly into our bank account.
Most companies pay monthly.  With TNI, it is possible to be paid
every week.

The goal that Kerri and I have is to continue to build long-term
residual income.  We believe we have a far better chance of doing this
with TNI than any other company we have been involved with.  This why
we have stayed with TNI for two and half years, which is by far the
longest we've been with any company.  That's even longer than I've
ever held a job.


In conclusion, I'd like to say that I totally agree with these guys
and then some.  There are a lot of nasty, shady, and dishonest people
and companies out there.  It really is hard to be absolutely certain
at first glance what you are being offered.  Carefully consider the
criteria suggested and some of your own and make an informed decision
about your future and that our your family.  A lot of people depend
on you.


I wish you well,



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From:Kari Lappi
Subject:I'm looking for good affiliate/mlm programs

I would like to make one point when choosing a program to promote. As we
all know Internet is spreading globally and while nutritional products
might be a growing trend, they are also very difficult to promote
worldwide.

I know several nutritional companies that can be distributed to only 5-6
countries. That's hardly global.

When people outside US join these programs they very soon  will notice how
expensive it can be. Trips to customs, taxes, duties etc. Some of these
products can't even be imported to several countries, for example
Scandinavian countries have very strict rules about nutritional products.

As for network/MLM marketing in general, I have an
excellent example how it can work really well on a global scale.

My mentor and a very dear friend, Anne Ahira, young lady from Indonesia,
started her network marketing business few years ago. She had to pay
nearly $200/month just for her Internet connection!

Despite of these problems she went on and built a
worldwide team and she has become a bit of a
celebrity, doing several TV and radio interviews
in Indonesia.

The point I'm trying to make is that anyone can
succeed with Network marketing if you just work hard
enough, choose a good company and help other people
to succeed as well. In Anne's case she has created
an excellent free, 30-day training program to all her
downlines and a 24-hour support site especially
for her team.

Anne is an excellent example how a young woman from
Asia can create a very lucrative business in just few
years. She's done it with dignity and she's an excellent role model for
anyone doing network marketing and especially to women who'd like to start
a business of their own, regardless of their age or the place where they
live.

It's very easy to be cynical and pessimistic, but people like Anne show
that once person has enough motivation and willingness to help others
anything can be achieved.

Whatever negative things we say about network/MLM marketing, it's very
hard to start ANY other kind of business with such low costs and yet to be
able to do business worldwide.

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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (5.1)=============
From:Mireille
Subject:Scamfreezone.org

Bogdan Fiedur wrote.
<----
Today I've received this email and was wandering what readers
of Adland Digest think about this kind of certifications.
Do you believe this helps your business?


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Dear Business Owner,

I came across your business website while surfing an online traffic
generator.
I noticed that your business isn't verified scam free and thought you
might be interested in having your business certified .

When you certify your business as scam free with scamfreezone.org you are
giving your visitors peace of mind by knowing they are dealing with a
legitimate online company by displaying our seals on your website.

When your visitors click on our seal on your site they are taken to a page
on our site giving them a description of your business and your
certification details.

We also provide all certified businesses with free online advertising.

For more details on how we can benefit your business please visit our
website at
http://www.scamfreezone.org/baker.htm

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Hello Bogdan,

I visited that site and the referring affiliate gets $20 when a website
signs up for the certification. I really don't think it helps you at all
or give you more credibility.

There are many scams out there that display scam free logos of some kind
and people online are getting smarter.  As discussed in the Digest before
just as an example, the Scam Report itself is a scam, so when you pay for
a logo from one of those sites, all it means is that you paid for it, not
necessarily that you're scam free.

I wouldn't spend my money on something like this.  If you offer a good
service, reasonably priced, and you don't make unrealistic claims of any
kind, that's all most people need to come to their own conclusions.

Just my thoughts of course...

Mireille


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (6.1)=============
From:Audra Schwalm
Subject:Any help in getting an online business going.

Hi Bogdan and Everyone!

In regards to Cecelia's post about starting a online
business. Cecelia, What is it that you enjoy doing?
What are your hobbies? What do you find yourself
doing a lot? What is your passion?

These are the main questions that you need to
answer to yourself before you go any further.
Starting up a business is a lot of work in
itself, and if you don't really enjoy what
you're doing, then chances are it won't work
for you.

No matter what you enjoy doing offline, you
Can make a business out of it online but you
have to have the passion for it, and you have
to be determined enough to make it work for
you.

I'm sure you've heard the saying...Build it
and they will come. That's a myth. It takes
a lot of learning, testing and experimenting
to find what will work for you.

Not only will you need your own website, you'll
have to learn how to advertise it in order to
make any sales. Whoever does business on the
internet, they eventually get their own .com
address because it's more professional and
costs less than $10 a year. Hosting is so cheap
now that there's no reason everyone shouldn't
have their own website.

I used the free hosts when I first started
because I wanted to see if this was something
I was going to stick with before I spent any
money. I read every free ebook out there, and
they do provide you with enough information
to learn the business.

You can pick up some free ebooks at these
sites:

http://www.ebooksnbytes.com/
http://www.ebookpalace.com/
http://www.free-ebooks.net/

Hope this information helps you Cecelia.

Best Wishes,
Audra



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From:Cathy Wagner
Subject:Newcomer

Hi June,

Congratulations on your WAHM status! Why have you stayed away from online
marketing?

This is what I suggest for all beginners, once they have their product and/or
web site: Learn how to write ad copy.

No matter what kind of advertising you plan to do, you will need to write
effective copy. Most of us do not start off knowing how to do this right off the
bat. It takes practice and you must track your results.

The good news is, there are lots of free advertising resources that can help you
test and improve your ad copy. Do not spend money on an advertising campaign
until you know your ad will produce results. And remember, not all free ad sites
are worthwhile. Be sure to get trustworthy recommendations for quality services.


Have a Profitable Day,

Cathy Wagner


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (8.1)=============
From:John Olson
Subject:Pre building a downline was on my Wish List!

William,

I must say William, I might have known you'd come up with some way to come
down on me for what I have written. You're a very funny fellow... I find
myself smiling and just shaking my head at the things you come up with.

"Come on John you can't have it both ways. When you totally slam downline
clubs and promoting them makes you look like an idiot."

While I have joined a couple of these "things" in the distant past, I no
longer promote them. In fact, if you read toward the bottom of this page
on my main site, you'll see what I think of Downline Clubs:
http://shop-money-time.com/main/id38.html

And as for not bashing other pay plans, read this page on my marketing
site:
http://shop-money-time.com/tgif/id52.html

I'm not sure when the last time you dropped by my Website was, but before
you accuse me of bashing things like Downline Clubs and then promoting
them, you should get your facts straight, unless you think BuildReferrals
is a Downline Club.

I don't think of it that way, it's a good resource and it's free. But in
case you haven't been to the page I have about BR, here's a quote:

"I do not recommend or endorse Any of the Money Making programs offered
through BR. But the other resources offered are worth while."

And then for some reason, when I talked about Commission Junction and
other sites like it, you seem to be saying that the merchants that can be
affiliated through them are somehow shady...

"Are you forgetting something. What about a service? are they any good or
are they just as quackery as the others?"

I don't see anything wrong with promoting merchants like, Enterprise Car
Rental, Mrs. Fields Cookies, Cars Direct, REI Outdoor, Omaha Steaks,
PetsMart, Tupperware, OverStock.com or Coldwater Creek. Or any other of
the affiliates I have signed with through Commission Junction, Link Share
and other similar companies. In case you didn't know, the merchants that
work with companies like CJ and Link Share, pay a hefty price just to be
listed with them, it's not cheap. And if there are any problems with
merchants and getting paid, CJ or Link Share, deals with it for you. And
all of these merchants have their own Customer Service departments to deal
with problems with products and delivery.

Oh, and as for the comment about not being able to set up a Newsletter
with just an Autoresponder, I know many people who do just that. As long
as the responder you are working with, allows group mailings. I have many
people on my different lists, and I can mail to them anytime I want, right
through the responder. Whether they have completed the responder messages
or not.

At least you agreed with me about checking out any Network Marketing
program before joining.

Honestly William, for the most part, you and I are on the same page. Just
because I don't join the programs you are in or any of the others that
pass my mail box, may not mean anything more then, I don't want what they
are offering.

As for your CCI, I admit, I have some problems with it. But if you're
happy promoting it, then good luck kiddo. It's your life.

The programs I am promoting now, have products that I like and like to be
able to offer. I don't join Get Rich Quick Junk, and I am very sceptical
about any program that only offers a matrix, of any kind, and no way to
retail any product without buying it and joining the opportunity.

William, I do wish you luck with your programs, but please, if you are
going to find fault with me and what I am promoting and doing, look
through the pages on my sites first.

William, I'm not trying to be unkind toward you by writing this, but I
don't know any other way to say what I needed to say.

God Bless you and yours,

John Olson


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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (1)=============
From:Lynn Hayner
Subject:Internet scams

There are thousands of "come-on" on the internet, urging me to pay $x per
(week, month,,year, etc.) and they'll make my site profitable. I've tried
a few and have had no results. How can one be sure that these people are
really doing what they promised? How can one be sure that they will get
their money's worth? Are there any reliable advertiser's available and how
does one sort them out of the mass?


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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (2)=============
From:Glo Williams
Subject:Getting  Started

I am also a newbie,I find that everyone thinks a newbie
has the basic knowledge,I didn't, and that made it
very hard for me.but,I refuse to give up. I would like
to publish an ezine.right now I would like to start
building a list,yet I don't know the autoresponder
thanks for "listening"

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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (3)=============
From:John Halls
Subject:Advertising Ethics

Hello all from an Australian reader.

I have a beef to air to you all for comment please.

Ever since undertaking marketing on the Internet, I have been very careful
NOT to mislead the reader of my Ads nor tried to trick them in any way.

EVERYDAY, in my email inbox, I get offers that BLANTANTLY break the rules
of Ethics. Me being me, I write to these people and vent my disgust to
them. Most don't reply. (I am not surprised!).

One person who did reply, threatened me with legal action for accusing
them of publishing illegal misleading advertising on their website. I have
noticed that their webpage has since been changed so maybe they DID listen
to me or suffered an attack of conscience. Either way, it hopefully saved
someone from losing money and becoming further dejected with their efforts
in trying to make money on the Internet.

My question to you is, AM I WASTING MY TIME?

Thanks for reading and I look forward to reading your answers/comments

John Halls

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==============N e w P o s t i n g  (4)=============
From:Lynn James
Subject:Any advise will be appreciated!

I am looking forward to reading and learning from this site.

I am involved in a new business and am trying to spread the word as fast
as possible, but do not want to Spam.

Any advise will be appreciated!

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From:Kindra Martinenko
Subject: http://www.cascadesinternetsolutions.com

My website, Cascades Internet Solutions, has been established on the web
since February 2003.  I am always looking to improve on it.  If you could
give me constructive feedback, I would appreciate it.  If you like what
you see, I welcome reviews through my Alexa.com link.

Things to look for:

-Broken Links
-Confusing aspects such as navigation, exiting pages, etc.
-Suggestions on content and what I can add via services, reviews, and
articles that will be of use to Internet marketers.

My target audience is made up of people like you, so I will strongly
consider all feedback--positive or negative.

Here is the link:  http://www.cascadesinternetsolutions.com

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From:Roy Houston
Subject: http://www.biztechteam.com

Greetings all!

I hope this finds everyone well.

Recently, Cathy Wagner and I teamed up and we have a new site we are
preparing to release. Before we do though we'd like to get some feedback
on it. The site can be found at http://www.biztechteam.com

Basically we are looking for feedback on the copy. Is it clear? Does it
leave you with questions?

Is there anything that doesn't work with your browser? Is the formatting
and sizing ok?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated in case there is a glitch we
have overlooked.


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=====================Site Review Response  (1)===============
From:Mike Towle
Subject: http://www.cheap-phone-service-online.com

Carl, your site was obviously made with a "cheap" template, and it shows.
Maybe, given the emphasis on "cheap" that you have, this is not such a bad
thing. However, the buttons on the left are hard to read, because the
blue-to-white blend behind them shows through the text. If the text were
filled with white, they would be much easier to read. Also, the rollover
copy is confusing, because only half of the message is shown at a time. I
see a button that says "long" and unless I move my mouse over it, I don't
see the other half, "distance". But if I leave my mouse over it, all I see
is "distance". A better use of the rollover technique would be to have the
entire copy visible at all times, and change the color when the cursor
hits.

I also think you use the word "cheap" too much. For many people, myself
included, cheap means shoddy, unreliable, low quality. Substituting the
word "inexpensive" in some of the copy would give a better impression.
Some graphics would definitely spruce up the site.

Mike Towle


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=====================Site Review Response  (2)===============
From:Mike Towle
Subject: http://www.winningmostlottery.com/

Christopher, for the most part, your site is attractive, with good use of
color. Your photo is distorted. You need to find out what space is used
for the photo, and edit the photo accordingly.

Your body copy goes right up to the margins. It would look better with
some cell padding on both the right and left. Also, some subheads would
break up the copy and make it easier for a viewer to scan.

I am confused by your domain name and page title. What does this site have
to do with winning a lottery? Unless I click on the lottery button, I
don't see any connection. Some explanation on the home page would be
helpful, but your home page is your Traffic Oasis page. I suggest a home
page that more clearly explains all the different pages on your site, and
how they relate.

A good start, and a good concept. Just needs to be explained a bit more
before diving right in to the sales pitch.

Mike Towle

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=====================Site Review Response  (3)===============
From:Robert Lee
Subject: http://www.cheap-phone-service-online.com

Hi Carl,
Interesting way to present a variety of affiliate programs. I think you
need more information per category, if you want to instill confidence and
sales. For instance, your VoIP page needs more information, as you want to
attract your target audience of newbies and beginners, people looking for
information, to join up under your suggestions. You need to SELL, not just
point people in the direction.
Otherwise, your pages are fast loading, reasonably well laid out and
easily navigated.

Robert Lee, Owner


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=====================Site Review Response  (4)===============
From:Robert Lee
Subject: http://www.winningmostlottery.com

Hi Christopher,
"It's Made To Be Impossible not to EARN!" I don't know what that means.
But your website is fast loading and it's easy to get around. I'm not sure
what it's about, if your selling an MLM, or lottery tickets. I guess a
little of both.
You need to decide which. And take the Amazon search box away and build a
library of books to sell from them, it'll work.

Your pages go the distance, across my 1280x1024 display. You should modify
the tables to a fixed pixel width, it may help display better. Either your
picture is distorted because of my screen resolution, or you need to have
a better picture in the left top corner, it's all stretched.

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There is only one way to build your business...
ByRuss Wilson

Everybody on the Web tells you what you
Need to do to build your web site.

Make it user friendly.
Make it easy to navigate.
Make certain your links work.
Don't use gimmicks.
Use only one or two colors.
And the list goes on, and on.

Then they tell you; your copy is KING

Write like you speak.
Write for 6th graders.
Use short sentences.
Use short Paragraphs.
Always address the copy to YOU, YOURS.
Don't use I, MY, MINE.
Don't try to sell more than 1 thing in your copy.

Then you're told

Your headline is what gets the readers attention
Make your headline stand out.
Don't use all Capitals.
Some people (read Gurus) spend days on writing one headline.

After you've been told all these things; then you get.

I have the end all, be all, program for you.
If you buy this program; all your money worries will be over (dog on
right, you'll have spent it all buying their programs.)
If you buy this software, program, etc. it'll end your problems with
(you name it).
This program, software, etc. will automate your business so all you need
to do is collect the Money.
AND THE LIST GOES ON, AND ON.

In all of the above; not once has anyone of those Gurus told you what you
REALLY NEED if you're going to be successful in building a Web Business,
or for that matter any kind of business.

But we continue to buy their programs; because after all, they are the
Gurus.  Their business is obviously successful, they've told us so.  But
not once did they tell us how it got to be so successful.  They're keeping
that little secret to themselves.

ENOUGH!

I'm not going to be well liked after I reveal this little SECRET, but I've
never been one to worry about popularity contests any way.

Are you ready to learn the SECRET they've all been keeping from you?

You're certain you don't want to hear about yet another MAGIC PROGRAM,
Software Program?  More drivel?

Okay, Okay; you've twisted my arm; here's the SECRET they've been keeping
from you.

This is where they tell you to get out your credit card; but I won't!

The SECRET is!  Gotcha.
Before you spend your money on web site design.
Before you buy web site hosting.
Before you sign up, or buy any business opportunity program.
Before you become an affiliate of any of the thousands of opportunities
available to you.
Before you've worn the numbers off of your credit card using it to buy
all that other stuff.

HERE IT COMES; READY TO BE AMAZED, ASTOUNDED?

BUILD YOUR LIST!!!

That's right; build yourself an opt-in list of people to market to.

Notice I said BUILD your list, not buy your list.

If you'll spend your time, and a little money to build your list.  You'll
have a warm market to sell all of that other stuff everyone is clamouring
to sell you.

Don't try to sell one thing!  Not even a dollar for fifty cents until you'
ve built your list.  It's that important.

If you don't build your list first; you're going to spend, spend, spend;
and have little, little, little coming back in.

How long do you think your budget will stand that?

How long will you continue to try to do business if it's all outgo, and no
income?  1-3-6 months; before you, like thousands before you quit, and
tell everyone that you know; it's impossible to make a living on the web.
Let alone become rich!

Did you get the message?

BUILD YOUR LIST FIRST!

Now of course you're saying: "that sounds right, but how?"

Well here's the how.

There are many, many list building programs you can join, some are free,
some are not.  The old saying "you get what you pay for" is true.  You can
join them and build your list through them.

But if you want the best of the best; and you want training on how to
build your list.  There's only one that I've found in 6 years on the web.

Oh! You really do want the information.  Well Okay, you've twisted my arm
again, I'll tell you.  Come a little closer; I'm going to whisper it in
your ear, cause we don't want just everyone to know this SECRET now do we.

Just go to: http://shmyl.com/gtfison?subject=article

That's it; the big secret that's been keeping you from the success you've
always known was yours.  Sounds to simple to be true?  Take the final
first step, when you click the link you've just taken the first step to
your financial future, and you didn't have to wear out your credit card to
do it.



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Russ Wilson is an Internet Marketer, and a distributor partner with
ISPVIP, the Internet Service Provider that pays you.
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A little boy came home from the playground with a bloody
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"Well, Dad," said the boy, "I challenged Larry to a duel. And,
you know, I gave him his choice of weapons."

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