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Topics in this issue:

Sponsor Message
Word from Publisher
1.FTC Rules need your input

C o n t i n u i n g   D i s c u s s i o n s (3)

1.Getting  Started
~Eric McArdle

2.In Defense of William Jaroske
~Kindra Martinenko

3.Can anyone recommend a good host where I can run my mailing list script.
~Douglas Mills

N e w     P o s t s  (2)

1.Marion Sanders
~ Hi Guys, I'm New To This!

2.Colin Fyfe
~ MLM....what is it?

Site Review Requests   (0)

Site Review Responses   (3)

1.Napoleon Jones

2.Christopher McCreedy

3.Christopher McCreedy

G u e s t   A r t i c l e    (1)
1.If You Want To RETAIN, You Have To TRAIN
By Jeffrey Lant

Joke of the Day

================== Word from publisher ====================

Greetings All

Welcome  450 new subscribers who joined list since last mailing.

AdlandPro has grown to the point where we have more than 200,000
users, of the various tools we develop and provide for our Members.

In adding Community to the platform available to members
my hope is that members will be able to develop relationships
with others of similar, different and complementary:
 - interests, expertise
 - objectives, values
I feel personally rewarded by growth of participation
from zero to more than 2,000 in just a matter of weeks.

The nature and tools of the Community are unique

- it is not a "forum" or bulletin board
- it is a network-building program in itself
- it is sophisticated and "user-friendly"
- new features are being constantly added

Naturally, I am also a member of the community.

See who I am, and how I use my profile:

Feel free to message me, I welcome your feedback and ideas
and if you have a question I can't answer
I bet I can put you on to someone who can.

The AdlandPro Community provides Members access to this extensive Network
- giving the opportunity to:

 : establish contact and form networks of interest with other Members
   in an environment targeted at Income Generation and Promotion
 : create an identity and presence that may be used as an 'anchor'
   location to announce the nature of a Member's online business activities.
 : provides a 'search-engine friendly' URL for permanent, effective
   exposure (see example: )
 : allows Community Members to list their offers of expertise
   and the products/services they represent - as well as
 : to look for other Community Members who can provide needed
   products, services and the benefit of their particular expertise.

The Community is free to join and also provides a gateway to income generation
by way of the core (commissionable) services of AdlandPro itself.
- Any Member who joins the Community from your referral and goes on to
purchase services is YOUR client
- not just for one visit
- not just for one sale
- but for all transactions so long as they remain a Member.

Beat that!

How do I get started?

If you have an Adlandpro account go here.

if not register here.

What do I do?

1. Click on the link "Account Setup Wizard"

This will take you through the steps to set up your profile information
- you can upload a photo if you wish

2. Invite your friends and Associates to join the Community
- Select "invite friends" from the menu to the left

3. List your offers for viewing by visitors and Members
- Select "my offers" from the menu to the left

4. Browse the offers of other Members
- Select "offers/requests" from the top menu bar

5. Return frequently to update your offers and add new ones
and also to view responses to your offers.
- all this can be done from the left menu when you log in.

Start Networking.

If you go to your homepage
(from the left menu)

You will find that all the details you entered for your profile
are clickable links.
Explore them - each link will list other Community Members who
share the same interest, location - or whatever

 + Add more interests that are targeted to the areas of
your business activities
 + Make contact with other members with complementary interests
and/or business activities
- send them an introductory message
- ask to add them as a friend

Check to see if there are any other Members

- in the same city or town
- that attended the same school or university
- that worked for the same company

These are all common factors that give you an immediate
association with another Community member, and a head start
in building your own Network within the Community

Use the "People Find" tool
(top menu bar)

Enter the terms you wish to search the Community database on
- be selective
Think of what you have to offer - or what needs you have
and search for likely Member matches.

Remember, any member can choose to respond to you
- or to BLOCK communications from you
Consider you approach carefully and don't make the mistake
of trying to use this powerful tool for cold selling.

Look to develop relationships
- they endure more than sporadic 'cold sales'

Browse the "requests"
(top menu bar)

These are from Members looking to "fill gaps" and
also to establish relationships.
What can you offer in response to these requests?
Again, take care with your approach.

Aim to be the most active Member

This is the clue to your success. It takes time

The 'density' of your exposure in the Community
(and on the Internet in general)
Is the key to the response rate you will achieve.

The greater your use of the Community tools

Support is ALWAYS available

The AdlandPro Community is YOUR opportunity
Good Luck!

See some recent members here.
(We show only members who posted their photo,
entered simple website and some of their interests)

Adland Digest Moderator
Bogdan Fiedur

=================FTC Rules need your input=====================
From:Marianne Payton

Dear Bogdan and Adlanders,

The FTC needs your input to get clarification to meet the small business owners
needs.  I know I have brought this up before but there's not much time to do
this as the deadline has been extended to  April 20th.  Please submit your own
comments to the FTC, outlining the following points or others you can come up
with.  For easier understanding of this matter, the has supplied the following explanation.

<a href=""> </a>

There are many, many small business owners who operate online and depend upon
email to stay in touch with customers, deliver product, send subscription
newsletters, etc., including the great numbers who may not be able to earn a
sufficient living in the general work force.

You can point out that this helps the U.S. economy in terms of increased flow of
cash and increased tax revenues, and these legitimate businesses are not the
perpetrators of spam.

I don't believe the Act was designed to hurt legitimate online businesses, but
rather, to stop this spam, which so far it hasn't done much as far as I am
concerned.  I still get my share daily.

Business owners run true opt-in lists and/or newsletters that give opt-out
directions in every issue and opt-out requests are honored.  Most email
newsletters are ad-supported publications.  This is a business model that is
almost universal in the world of periodical publications, and should not be
considered as spam.

Suppression lists and a "Do Not E-mail" Registry would bring financial hardships
resulting in many of these online business owners going out of business.  We
would like for newsletters using affirmative consent opt-in requests to be
considered as relationship or transactional email messages and not considered
the "commercial email" the Act is intended to control.
Newsletters using affirmative consent opt-in requests should be exempted from
the provisions of the Act.

You may simply type out the points and submit them in the "Additional Comments"
section at the bottom of the FTC page. You do not need to answer individual
questions, but only give the required information at the top of the form.

People from all countries need to comment comment.  We need to bear in mind:
This legislation affects every online business in the world.
Let's be sure the correct issue is put in front of the FTC!  PLEASE do it today!
The link is below ~ please use it before the deadline ~ again, that is April 20,

<a href=""> </a>

God Bless,
Marianne Payton,

Charter Member of iCop Professional Organization of the Highest Integrity
Created BY the Members, FOR the Members!
With GOD all things are possible ~ Matt. 19:26


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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (1.1)=============
From:Eric McArdle
Subject:Getting  Started

Hello Glo Williams,

The autoresponder that I use and have had no problems with is .

It's a free autoresponder and here's a few reasons why I recommend it:

*Broadcasting - Sending emails to the whole list
*Manually import leads
*Very customizable html form
*Not blocked by spam filters like freeautobot
*Double opt-in (A mandatory feature in this spammy world!)
*Trustworthy owner

Since you're starting an ezine, the broadcasting feature is vital so that
you can send out your newsletter and updates if you wish.

All autoresponders have what we know as a message sequence which is
basically what it says.  Your messages sequence.

Now, you might be going the route of writing all of your issues, setting
them to certain intervals, and loading them all in your autoresponder.

With autoresponsewizard, you can set how many days you want your message
to go out after the previous one.  So you can send the instant autoreply,
and a week later send your first issue and a week later and so on.

So, I do highly recommend because it has never let
me down.

If you're looking for a service with unlimited autoresponder setups, try

Hope these help!

Kind Regards,
Eric McArdle

TrafficaZine Online Marketing Tools and Resources


===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (2.1)=============
From:Kindra Martinenko
Subject:In Defense of William Jaroske

Well, well, William--it appears as though you have become a modern-day
heretic of the Internet Marketing world.  My condolences, or should I dare
say, Congratulations?

If anyone who has lambasted William has seen his website, (and I mean, really, really has seen it)--then you
will realize that William's comments are in all of our best interests.
The truth hurts!  People who believed the Earth was round several
centuries ago were excommunicated and even sent to death.

On the Internet, it is hard NOT to believe that there is at least one
good, honest, and workable money making system.  How has it become that
there are so many people joining in--and so few success stories?  The only
answer I can summon is that there are a few good systems out there that
were at one time extremely successful.  All it takes is a few followers to
BELIEVE they can achieve the same level of success and boom!  You have
yourself a viral MLM money making machine.  Machines like SFI, HerbaLife,
Tahitian Noni Juice (which is nothing more than squashed prunes!--I hope
you are all regular!), Lifeforce, Amway, and on and on and on. It takes a
lot of hard work to build one of these machines--and it takes a lot of
hard work and dedication to build a loyal base of distributors, resellers,
or affiliates.  Call them whatever you like, but they are the followers.
If you have joined, or have ever joined one of these programs, then you
are a follower. Nothing is wrong about that.  You learn a lot by
following.  But you don't make the big bucks.  If you don't make the big
bucks, you are more likely to drop out, and if you drop out with a broken
heart and empty pockets, you are more likely to become a skeptical cynic

William Jaroske.

You see, its not William who is the problem.  The problem is that there
are way too few good systems and way too many system followers.  I am not
saying that William is the way he is because he is a bitter ex-MLMer.  I
don't know what his true motivations are.  I think William is who he is
because he firmly believes in educating oneself before jumping into any
opportunity, no matter how good it looks.  His wisdom may draw criticism,
but like I said before, the truth hurts.

Here is what I have learned in my 5 years of Internet Marketing: If you
would like to make more money on the Internet, create your own system.
Lord knows, I am still stuck in the follower stage. I am an affiliate of
SFI.  At times I like being a SFI follower and at times I despise it.  I
use my experience with SFI as a testing ground for marketing techniques so
I can build my own system one day that will rake in profits that I can
retire off of.  For now I am content working on my website, helping
people, educating them, and educating myself in the process.

I embrace people like William who are willing to go out on a limb to
snatch marketers off their concocted cloud of profits and bring them back
down to reality.

Count me into the "Heretics Club".

Kindra Martinenko


Owner, Cascades Internet Solutions



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===========C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n (3.1)=============
From:Douglas Mills
Subject:Can anyone recommend a good host where I can run my mailing list script.

So many hosting companies put restrictions on running mailing list
software for large optin lists on their servers.

I have a list which I send a newsletter out to weekly with over 6000
subscribers. My current host has said a list of this size does not comply
with their accepted user policies.

I do not want to use a third party service like aweber or Topica. I simply
want to re-install my Mailing List software script on a suitable server
and carry on as before.

Can anyone recommend a quality reliable host with an excellent track
record and reasonable pricing who accepts mailing lists?



==============N e w P o s t i n g  (1)=============
From:Marion Sanders
Subject: Hi Guys, I'm New To This!

Any advice I get I will be grateful for!

I want to be a successful online advertiser!

How do I start?



==============N e w P o s t i n g  (2)=============
From:Colin Fyfe
Subject: MLM....what is it?

I often read business opportunity sections of job advertisements and
always wondered what the acronym MLM meant and I'm sure lots of others did
and still do too.

But now as a Tiscali Business Associate (joined 6 months ago) I know
exactly what it is and no matter what it's called, MLM, Network marketing,
Relationship marketing, it is something I am very proud to be doing and am
sure I will be successful long term.

I feel sorry for the people who are not interested in MLM as they simply
cannot see past the "pyramid" thing!Well more fool them and they will be
the ones to miss out. But for anyone who still hasn't twigged, take a good
look at the tour on my website
and surely any preconceptions will be put to bed once and for all,
Colin Fyfe.

"There are risks and costs to action. But they are far less than
the long range risks of comfortable inaction." - John F. Kennedy

Get Tiscali Broadband from only 15.99 per month,

go to


=====================Site Review Response  (1)===============
From:Napoleon Jones

Kathy and Roy,

Job well done!!!  Only two minor glitches, one the banner ad to Strategy
Ad Service does not link properly, or her site could be undergoing
maintenance and one word not properly used.  The word "there" should be
"their" on your about us page, under the Cathy Wagner Portion, 5th
paragraph, last sentence.

Nap Jones

Independent Tech Consultant



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=====================Site Review Response  (2)===============
From:Christopher McCreedy

Re: Mike Towle Site review response (2

Mike, thanks for the critique of my site. You have reinforced my belief
that the AdlandPro community is the best on the web.

Taking on board your valid points I have now changed the photo and
explained on the Home page what the site is all about.

I chose the domain and title ( for no other reason
than I thought it was catchy plus the fact the domain name and title are
the same just might get me a higher ranking in the search engines, lol.

Thanks again Mike.


Steps to Success in Network Marketing


=====================Site Review Response  (3)===============
From:Christopher McCreedy

Re: Robert Lee Site review response (4)

Hi Robert,

Changes have been made, hopefully for the better. But in my opinion a
website is continually 'under construction'. Always little tweaks and
twitches here, there and everywhere~ :-o)

With good advice from people like yourself and Mike Towle it make the job
much easier.

I hope the new Home page now makes much clearer what the site is about.
Amazon link also changed to a simple 100 hot books link. Not too sure what
you meant by building a library but I'd be interested to learn.


Steps to Success in Network Marketing



=====================G u e s t   A r t i c l e   (1)===============
If You Want To RETAIN, You Have To TRAIN
ByJeffrey Lant

How you can recruit & train thousands in your business opportunity
without ever leaving your home!

What you are about to read is both historic and
vital to your future income. NO one in the world has
read this information before this report was written.
You are one of the very first people to see it. Once
you read it, you'll see just how terribly important
this is and why you should not only read and re-read
this report, but study it carefully and take immediate

IMPORTANT: You will get more out of this report if
you visit and first. Please do that

Historic Background To This Report

Every business opportunity, every network marketing
opportunity makes a point of stressing the importance
of building relationships with the people in your
organization/downline. EVERY single one of them makes
a point of telling you just how significant continuing
training of these people is. But let's take a close look
at the situation today for the millions of people in
various business opportunities who are trying to make
and who really need extra income.

Joe, your sponsor, signs you up. He tells you what
a great sponsor he'll be; he tells you how super the
company and the opportunity are, he tells you he'll
"be there for you." After talking to him on the phone,
you hang up with a great feeling. But Joe never contacts
you again... and the company provides "training" that's a

Is Joe a scamologist? Did the company set out to "take
you to the cleaners"?

Probably not. The truth is that neither Joe nor the
company had what was necessary to do the job. Sure, they
may have sent you an occasional email message; sure,
they may have had the occasional teleconference.

But you know and they know you need more product and
business building information than that. Quite simply,
however, they lack the tools to provide it.

Now It's Time To Help Joe, Your Business Opportunity

When you went to you saw
your profitable future. It's here right now. It's called
webcasting, and it's brought to you by our company,
Worldprofit, Inc. If you've come on one of our webcasts
by enrolling free at you
already know why webcasting is your business opportunity
and financial salvation.

When you have a Worldprofit Meeting & Closing Webcast
Room, YOU control the most advanced training and sales
tool in the world.


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You can have as many training webcasts as you like.
Hold them DAILY if you wish. Not only can you deliver
the product, training and opportunity message just as
often as you want, but it NEVER costs the people you
want to talk to even a penny to participate in these

Think for a minute about the teleconferences you've
participated in. They ALL cost money because you and
every single person participating ALL have to pay
phone charges.

Not with webcasting!

Now, you can invite every single person in your opportunity,
every single prospect you want in your opportunity to
DAILY webcasts. You can "micro manage" your team,
helping top distributors become better, making sure
the laggards get your message and turning them into
profitable members of your team.

Participants need NO special equipment to participate:
just a computer.

Your speakers need only a headset with mike (about
$19 at RadioShack) and a webcam (we recommend the Logitech
Quick Cam Messenger, about $40 at Walmart).

IMPORTANT: NO one needs to download any software to
participate, either. If you've been to you already know how easy
it is to get in and listen to a program. Thanks to
Worldprofit's incredibly easy system -- unbeatable
anywhere in the world -- you'll be webcasting within
10 minutes of when your system is set up!

Now you have what you need to build your organization
through the very best training you can provide!
Now you're way out in front of any competition!

What's more, we at Worldprofit offer you over 500
live training webcasts a year (including many given
by me), so you can learn everything there is to know
about webcasting, including how to offer the very best
training to the people in your organization. You can
easily sign up for them at,
a page you should bookmark now.

You'll LOVE Your Worldprofit Meeting & Closing Room

Your Meeting & Closing Room will quickly become your
online workhorse. You can

* have it designed to your exact specifications by
Worldprofit Design Services

* have an email link which will enable visitors to
email you so you can come and attend to them

* have a doorbell added, so that people can ring
for your attention

* add links to your products, website, additional
information at the bottom of your Meeting & Closing

* include your phone number if your wish or any
other information you want!

This is YOUR online office and you can host meetings
as small as one-on-one or as big as 1000. (There is
a small surcharge for meetings over 75.)

If your visitors have a webcam you can easily bring
them on screen with a single click. If they don't
have a webcam, you can talk to them via video and
they can respond in audio. If they have neither video
nor audio, they can type in their questions and you
can answer them via video! In short, you'll be able
to have direct communications with everyone who visits
you, wherever they are on this planet!

Understanding & Using Your Live Seminar Webcast System

At a certain point, your organization is going to be
so large you're going to want to provide more formal,
professional presentations. At that moment, you'll want
Worldprofit's Live Seminar Webcast System. (As before,
it's a good idea to see the demo so you understand
what I'm talking about. See it at )

This amazing system gives both you and people you
wish to give or rent space to the ability to produce
professional presentations using slides, power point,
etc. You can charge for these programs or not as you

What's more, the Live Seminar System is a huge money-

Each day you have the ability to present 24 hours of
programming. With the best will in the world, you probably
won't want to do more than 1-3 hours per day yourself.
That leaves you 21-23 hours per day to rent out for
extra income! You can easily do this with your fully
automated booking system.

Say that you rent out just one hour per day every day
for one year for $100 per hour (a real bargain). You'd
gross $36,500 in rental income. The total cost of your
Live Seminar System is just $2899.95, so your profit
just on this service alone is immense. And that doesn't even
count the money you make from your own presentations,
any joint ventures you enter into, or what you'd make
by giving some people in your organization free access
so they could host their own training programs. In short,
the Live Seminar System has been designed as a huge
money-maker, which is why most of our webcast customers
own both the Meeting & Closing Room and the Live Seminar

Designing Your Fully Webcast Enabled Website

Once you start webcasting, you'll wonder how you ever
did business before. Not only is it fast and convenient,
enabling you to talk to and train all the people in your
organization and get all your prospects the information they
need without them spending a single penny, but webcasting
will lift your spirits, too. At Worldprofit we talk about
"the joy of webcasting," because people just LOVE not
only what they can accomplish with webcasting but the
ease with which they can do it.

What's great about webcasting is that so long as your
website can be edited, you can have it added to your
website at once. Now you have not only a website but
an international broadcast network built right in.

To create this site, we recommend you use the tip-top
designers at Worldprofit Design Services. See their
work at

We understand how to create a customer-centered website
for you and any opportunities you're in. We'll design
the site, we'll install your webcast services, and
we'll maintain both site and services for you for
maximum results. What's more, we'll even give you a
spectacular offer on creating your fully webcast
enabled business opportunity website. See the exciting
details at .

Webcasting Is The Missing Tool That Enables You To
Achieve The Promise Of Your Business Opportunity

Right now, you're trying to profit from one or more
business opportunities without having the essential
tools you need to do just that. It's not your fault.
Webcasting is so new you may not even have heard
about it before. But once people SEE webcasting and
understand how EASY it is to use, they act like
prisoners who have just been freed! Like I said,
people LOVE webcasting and the results it delivers
to them every time they webcast!

Now instead of fretting that the people in your
organization cannot get trained, train them. It costs
them NOTHING to come to a webcast and they need NO
special equipment!!!

Now instead of using expensive mail, mass fax and
teleconferences, use webcasting. You can have a
webcast every single day if you want; it costs you
no more and you can get out just the message you
want to every single prospect, every single distributor.

Now instead of wondering why yet another opportunity
has been such a big bust for you, YOU can be spending
your time training and retaining, finally seeing the
residual income which has proved so elusive to you
in the past.

In short, webcasting turns you into a real, money-
making player from the very first DAY you have it!

And as I've said, with over 500 Worldprofit training
webcasts to select from in a year, we'll help you perfect
your game and maximize your profits.

We all know the expression that if you keep doing what
you've been doing, you'll keep getting what you've been
getting. If you want better results, you need a better

It should now be clear to you just why virtually all
online "opportunities" have proven to be busts for the
people in them. It should be equally clear what you need
to do to change that for yourself and all the people in
your opportunity and organization.

You need to get webcast services today and you need
to start using them and profiting from them at once!

I'm standing by to help you do just that. for immediate assistance.
Include your name, opportunity name, address, and phone.

Register for one of today's webcasts at

See Worldprofit's special business opportunity websites
complete with all webcast services at

Webcasting is what you've been wanting to turn your
business opportunity into the money maker you've wanted.
Get going now!

Harvard-educated Dr. Jeffrey Lant is one of the best-
known and most successful marketers on earth. He'll
be happy to show you how to grow YOUR business
opportunity. Subscribe FREE to his newsletter at and visit


=====================Joke of the Day   (1)===============

Provided by Marianne Payton


A single guy decides life would be more fun if he had a pet. So he went to the
pet store and told the owner that he wanted to buy an
unusual pet.

After some discussion, he finally bought a centipede, (100-legged bug), which
came in a little white box to use for his house. He took the box back home,
found a good location for the box, and decided he would start off by taking his
new pet to church with him.

So he asked the centipede in the box, "Would you like to go to
church with me today, we will have a good time."

But there was no answer from his new pet. This bothered him a bit, but he waited
a few minutes and then asked him again, "How about going to church with me and
receive blessings."

But again, there was no answer from his new friend and pet. So he
waited a few minutes more, thinking about the situation. ! ;He decided to ask
him one more time; this time putting his face up against the centipede's house
and shouting, "Hey, in there! Would you like to go to church with me and learn
about The Lord!"


A little voice came out of the box:..

"I heard you the first time! I'm putting on my shoes."


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