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                                         Moderator, Amalia Sotiriadou
                                         Vol. 1 issue #445 March 16, 2005


 

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Word from the Moderator
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Food For Thought
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Quiz – What’s been holding you back?

Continuing Discussions (4)
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1. Effective Promotion Reply to Pat Belgrave
James Pendleton, David Ferguson

2. Re: Response to MODERATOR: Amalia
Russ Wilson/Webintel

3. Re: Thank you for reviews
Judith Tramayne-Barth


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1. Follow the Success Recipe
Charles Green

2. Time? Schedule? Share your routines
Doug Lindahl

3. Experience
William Hathaway

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Word from Moderator
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Hi folks!

The holiday is over and it’s back to work for me! Not that I celebrated too hard,
mind you, as I was privileged enough to be able to attend a 2-day online seminar
over the weekend that was just mind-boggling! I only wish I had paid attention to my
email and read the invitation earlier so I could have invited all of you too. I don’t
want to be secretive, but I also don’t want you to think I’m advertising either, so the
organizers of this conference shall remain nameless. Suffice it to say that everyone
who attended over the weekend woke up a much better marketers and I also believe
better people on Monday. Next time, I’ll be sure to invite you!


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Quiz – What’s been holding you back?
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Wow! Lots of food for thought during that Conference I was talking about above and
I will be digesting it for a long time! In the meantime, I thought another quiz might
be in order for the Digest readers here, because you are falling asleep on me again!
he he Here we go then:

What has been holding you back from becoming wildly successful on the net?

1. No money, man!

2. I can’t learn all that gibberish computer stuff

3. Who’s got thousands upon thousands of hours to do everything?

4. I’m trying but those #$^@ scammers keep ripping me off!

5. Hey, I’m wildly successful! Buzz off!!

6. Other – please elaborate in minute detail


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Re: Effective Promotion Reply to Pat Belgrave
From: James Pendleton

Hi Pat Belgrave,

Well before I make this statement sit down. There is nothing wrong with affiliate,
replicated, cookie cutter template type websites. Don't get me wrong. But your site is
a domain inside a domain.

Sites like these are very difficult to promote. It’s the main domain that gets the traffic
and not the site that is inside the domain. In other words, yoursite.theirsite.com.
Theirsite.com is what gets the traffic.

What is tried and true proven? Email promotion. Not Spam email addresses gathered
from web pages by an extractor. But a pure optin/optout Ezine or mail list. It takes
time to build one of these. And lots of work to maintain it with content. I had a great
run with *The Reality Ezine* but discontinued because of time and content
requirements.

You asked for proven marketing, try this. Get your own domain name. They are
really inexpensive now. Then host it some where. Shop around for your best price.
Create your own site with your own domain name. Have your index page contain
only two specific things: A place to register for your newsletter and also a very short
relevant description about your affiliate website/websites. Keep it simple and to the
point. I say this because some sites like yours are just entirely to busy. Too much
stuff on one page for a visitor to focus on. So they just click away. I have used many
cookie cutter replicated type sites.

I have come back after a short absence with my domain. And its traffic is doubling
now month over month a steady increase. In my most humble opinion, having your
own domain is the only way to go if you want unsolicited traffic from the WWW.

You can build from there with your optin/out Ezine/Newsletter. There is no such
thing as overnight success for a individual or little person that is marketing on the
web. Yes there are overnight success stories. But they are not the norm. Most success
comes from diligence and the drive to succeed.
Over time you will build a readership if your ezine is good. Also your domain being
its own entity will receive lots more traffic than a domain inside a domain. Most of
the blast it sites FFAs and others are just hype.
AdlandPro has the best and legitimate blasting systems. Their systems are real. Not
just hype.

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Re: Effective Promotion
From: David Ferguson

Hi Pat

On your web pages make space for banner's and link exchanges. Then search for
high traffic websites that closely relate to your business and trade banners and links
with them. This still brings in visits to my site and still works out here on the net.
Make sure you have a catchy banner that people will click on. Most but not all
banner exchanges give you info that tells you how many times your banners have
been viewed and how many times they have been clicked.
Take those results and change your banner or if your getting a lot of clicks on it you
know to leave it and not change the look of it.

There are also Google adwords that really work great for me. I have an ebook that I
can give you to help you with this. It is called Google Profit Tools. I do not have it
on a website. You will need to email me and I will send it to you. Just email me at
mailto:ferguson.605@rogers.com?subject=Google_Ebook 

Hope this helps you
Regards
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Re: Response to MODERATOR: Amalia
From: Russ Wilson/Webintel

“MODERATOR: I truly have to admire Russ’ skillful advertising!! Russ, your story
(if true) has merit, so I decided to post it – but this is your last warning… I will NOT
publish another “trick ad” or if I do, I will delete every reference to your product!
Folks, Russ’ attempts are a great lesson on how to advertise (where it is allowed).
Take a lesson from them!

Amalia”
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Amalia:

Every word of my article is true, and it was written as a message to every newbie on
the net.

I believe sadly: from experience that the web overwhelms new people, and it's just
too easy to jump into every program that is presented because there are some really
great copywriters out here that can make their program, or product the end all be all
of products; the "GLODEN FLEECE" that 'man' has been seeking since the days of
"Homer".

I really did spend all that money; I went through my entire 401K proceeds from a
previous job seeking and not finding until I got my new computer.

I'm sorry you felt it a thinly veiled attempt at advertising, such was not my intent. I
sent it in response to 'Willie Crawford's' article about the importance of niche
marketing, and stated I had found my niche. I gave no reference to my business
except my sig file which I believe is acceptable in all posts to the digest.

At any rate, I do thank you for the compliment; even if it was 'left handed'. I only
wish my ad copy was as easy to write as an article!

Thank you for publishing me.

Russ Wilson/Webintel
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Re: Thank you for reviews
From: Judith Tramayne-Barth

I want to thank Robert Lee, James Pendleton and Chris Raynor for taking the time to
review my sites. I printed off each of your comments and worked diligently to do
quite a few of the changes you suggested (grin).

I now am very pleased with both my sites. Robert, I used pixels instead of
percentages and now it looks more uniform but I do tell people on my
mysteryread.com site -- it looks better at 800 X 600 resolution.

I don't like 1280 X 1024 but at least now pages are centered in the middle and not
spread across the page.

Also Robert I use the Free Book 1, Free Book 2, etc. because it helps my search
engine ratings.

But what I truly appreciate is your comment about my book club page; it is now
strictly a sales page.

Wishing you always "a good read,"

Judith

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Follow the Success Recipe
From: Charles Green

Yesterday I cooked some jam drops (a type of biscuit with a drop of jam on top).
My mother had given me the recipe and I followed it. The biscuits turned out fine.

Today, another member of my family (who shall remain nameless) made them, but
changed one thing...the oven temperature. She cooked them at 190 C
instead of 180 C. The jam melted too much and dribbled right off some of
the biscuits, and some were a little too brown on the bottom.

This reminds me of when I was a child. I'd follow the recipe for cup cakes and make
a great mixture. I'd cook a batch at the right temperature and they came out... well...
perfect. Then, I'd load up the next batch. So they'd "cook quicker", I'd turn the
knob full on. As I recall, it was 300C.

You can guess the result. They cooked really quick, but were inedible.
At least today's jam drops are edible.

A recipe gives us instructions of how to get a desire result. When you change the
recipe, you change the result.

The same theories hold true for what we do in business. There are things that work
exceptionally well. If you're involved in some kind of MLM, your upline will tell
you what works for them and what you should do. If you have a J.O.B., your boss
tells you what works and what you should do.
Many internet 'gurus' (a few of them worth listening to) publish their recipe for
success. All these people are giving us a recipe that has already been proven to get
the desired results.

It is the nature of man (and woman) to think we know better. We change the recipe.
When we change the recipe, we change the result. Sometimes it pays off, but most
often it doesn't.

Next time someone tells you what works, and particularly if you know it's proven,
consider the possibility that you will get the same results if you follow the same
recipe for success.

The flip-side of this is the definition of stupidity, when something doesn't work...

'Doing the same thing and expecting a different result'

There's also another saying popular in business opportunity circles...

'If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you’ve always
got'.

If you're onto a good thing, stick with it. If not, try something else.

You should always feel free to change the recipe, but only if it will improve the
result.

Good Luck,

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Time? Schedule? Share your routines
From: Doug Lindahl

I'm constantly adjusting my schedule around constantly changing schedules, is there
a good way to combat a changing environment when I know a daily or weekly
routine is always the best way to accomplish anything?

What if any changes can I make to my time at the PC besides using the "Income
producing activity" mindset? And what kind of schedule do you use, set or not?

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Experience
From: William Hathaway

I sitting here reading all the good advice and got to thinking. I have some good
advice. It has nothing to do with the internet. But…

Everyone has to paint from time to time and that is something I know a bit about. If
you spill paint on anything from carpet to brick there is one thing that always takes it
out. Dirt. Rub dirt into it and don’t worry. When the rest of the paint dries, just wash
off the dirt.

The internet I'm still learning. I think I'll get so fat I'll have to get off my can and go
back to the physical stuff.

Have A Blessed Day

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