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                                         Moderator, Amalia Sotiriadou
                                         Vol. 1 issue #447 March 25, 2005


 

Topics in this issue:
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Word from the Moderator
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Food For Thought
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The Power of Writing

Responses to Previous Tidbits (4)
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Kim Snyder, Canedy, Robert Lee, Rudolph Burgzorg

Continuing Discussions (10)
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1. Re: You are right
From: Ervin Hoath

2. Re: Have you thought about?
From: Ervin Hoath

3. Re: Continuing Comments on http://ny.pressmania.com 
Robert Lee, Brian Lawrence, Kristen Voegeli, Larry Sands, Michael Francis,
John Morley, Geoff Dodd, Greg Lomas


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2. A Door of Opportunity. Why do 97% fail?
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Avoiding "Me Too" Marketing with a Competitive Advantage, by Marcia Yudkin

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Word from Moderator
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Hurray! We sure have a loaded Digest today, so I recommend you get a cup or glass
of your favorite beverage, sit back, relax, take a deep breath and start reading!
I personally consider every word from you, our members, GOLD. I feel I become
just a little bit smarter (or at least better informed) from reading, selecting,
publishing and yes, re-reading your posts. Keep’em coming!

Make sure you visit the new chatroom at:
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You can now keep track of the discussions in the AdlandPro Digest via the following
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Posting in the AdlandPro Digest Forum is ONE way of beating spam filters!
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The Power of Writing
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Write a good ad… Write articles… Write an e-book… Publish an e-zine…
How many times have you heard of these supposedly “perfect ways” to attract
customers?
Now, suppose you are just not Pulitzer Prize material. Are you doomed?
Do you have any ideas on how you can “wing it” if Phys. Ed. was your favorite
course instead of English? How about if your mother language is Chinese?
Let’s hear from you.

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Re: Why I just can’t throw my ads out there
From: Kim Snyder

For me I need my ads/emails to go to a niche group of people. I sell cosmetics and
natural skin/body products. I don't think someone selling cars to men for example is
going to be a target market for me.

I am interest in a special group for traffic and its very hard to find ways to advertise
because of it. Most places for free ads etc are targeting mlm or other money making
ideas not a site that isn't going to give you something free, not yet anyway.. LOL
I am a young site I am still trying to find the right places to advertise and with a very
small budget its very hard. I think it might be easier for those who sell information
products that are downloadable but that market is packed!

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Re: Targeted Advertising
From: Canedy

Q: Do you target your advertising or do you just "send it out there" and
hope for a bite? How important IS it to go after a targeted market for
you and how do you go about advertising to it SPECIFICALLY?

A: That depends :>)
It depends on what stage of business you are in.

If you're a new business without a tested mailing list you have little choice. You have
to start somewhere.

But there are ways to circumvent this problem too.
Here are three ideas that may help you.

1. Buy leads from a company that can filter leads based on your criteria. If you've
developed your "A Customer Profile" these companies can provide you with a list
that comes very close to matching your target market.

If you buy an unfiltered (not qualified)list you're just creating waste and creating a
lot of unnecessary work for yourself.

2. Go to online forums that serve your "A Customer Profile" and contact those
people.

3. Join a group of people that can partner with you to build a list of your "A
Customer Profile". If you are reading this message you are probably already doing
this. AdlandPro.com is a great place to find people that should be in your "A
Customer Profile".

If you haven't noticed yet I have been stressing the idea of having an "A Customer
Profile". This in itself is a good way of defining your niche market.

If you don't have a well defined niche market you will spend thousands of dollars
(and hours) on wasted effort.

This is not a tip or nice idea it is a FACT! It is CRITICAL!

Know your market. Know your "A Customer Profile". And do everything you can
think of to filter your efforts to reach these people. You will gain higher conversion
rates, lower advertising costs, and greater profits.

If you want customers that have a very high perception of value for your products
and services, then define your Niche.

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Re: Targeted or not?
From: Robert Lee

You asked: Do you target your advertising or do you just "send it out
there" and hope for a bite? How important IS it to go after a targeted
market for you and how do you go about advertising to it SPECIFICALLY?

I think that, as I understand the members of this list, most of them will "fire it out
there" to get as many "possibles" as possible. Without spamming, I hope.
Targeting requires forethought. Technique. Experience and an understanding of the
market needs as to the product you are promoting.

Placing free ads on any site that will accept them (or just running the software to do
it automatically), using link trade sites to just 'get out there' with no regard for
organic or natural search results that may penalize such promotional methods.

For myself and the 40+ sites I run targeted is the only method of promotion. Sure, I
get my link placed on different sites in the hope of gaining some attention and maybe
some additional Google PR from highly ranked sites. But who doesn't?
And I have a reasonable budget based on what I want (and do!) earn every month.
It's all the part of any business. You have to spend to promote, promote to earn.

But... and this is a big BUT.
Targeted promotion isn't always based on a $$ cost. I spend much of my time
searching for and publishing other people's articles on my sites with a link trade for
payment. I just have to find the right people that can write what my audiences want
to read.
And I write a lot of articles myself that I allow other people to publish ... it's a great
method of traffic and promotion.
(BTW: If you know of websites that archive articles from writers to be published on
websites for free, let me know!)

So, in a nutshell, it's targeted and a 'shotgun approach' too. But always under my
control based on acceptance of where I place links and articles and who uses them,
as much as anyone can maintain that control in our online world.

It's also about striking when the iron is hot...
http://www.endthelockout.com - all about the NHL fans missing hockey this season.

You have to move at the speed of the Internet ... and for that you're not on dialup
anymore Toto!

Robert Lee

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Quiz - What's been holding you back?
From: Rudolph Burgzorg

Forum Members,

Nothing is holding me back at the moment. After 7, years of trying to make money
on the Internet I have, finally, found a program that is delivering the goods as
promised. Take a look:

Total Referral Commissions to date: $3,459.81

Account Info
Name: Rudolph Burgzorg
Username: SuccessB
Deposits: $2,079.47
Earned: $350.10
Balance: $2,630.92

I was involved with Reality Millions for the past 5,months. My only investment was
$400.00. The Statement is showing pure profits from re-investments.
Not bad, would you say? Need I say more?

Rudolph
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Re: You are right
From: Ervin Hoath

Hello Amalia

You are absolutely right about this past weekend. I was there for the whole thing and
words can’t describe what I got out of it. I hope there are more of these types of
seminars in the future. I am sure there will be.

To success

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Re: Have you thought about?
From: Ervin Hoath

Hello William

I enjoyed your post. Are you a professional painter and if so have you thought about
putting out a tips news letter about painting.

To success
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Re: Pressmania Review
From: Robert Lee

I waited for the first impressions to be registered and published in the digest before I
spoke my words.
One review that stood out was "Well your new 'local' approach seems interesting, but
I am uncertain how we would promote it on www.XXXX...."
If you don't know how to promote ANY LOCAL offer on your website then you
need to recalibrate your thinking.
Your local market is your home world. It’s a place where your ideas are tried, your
sales techniques tested. A place where your family and friends offer their opinions
(good and bad, informed and not) about your website, your business and the products
you offer.
Your local market, if you have a good enough standing in your home town, should
be receptive to an "also suggested" page of offers.
More ideas needed? Sorry Bogdan, they're for subscribers of MY newsletter. LOL
Where I live they only charge $30.00 a month for a newspaper classified daily listing
of Internet Businesses. Local businesses to be sure... but ... I'm local. And I draw
great traffic from that those listings.

More thoughts:

Why the typos?
Indeed... what gives? Every first impression should be perfect. What gives? Bogdan
you know better.

404 errors? .... Young site can happen, be sure to email the webmaster after you go
back and click refresh a few times. I always do when I'm reviewing websites.

"Too much whitespace”.... Well, we all want to be Craiglist don't we? LOL
I'm sure the white will fill in, but let's keep the target targeted, right? This isn't a
'grab-for-all' affiliate site, it's got a plan, a point and a distribution model. In and out,
get the visitor what they want in a certain amount of clicks, direct traffic. Lose that
and you lose everything else. Did you not tread the whole plan of the PressMania
program?

It's not the white that sells; it's what's inside the white, right?

"I think that you have come up with a good idea and I would be willing to participate
in it when you get it finalized.”.... You'll be too late at that point.

Bogdan.... As it goes, you have a good model to grow from. I'm sure you have some
very well placed affiliates to begin the penetration into New York for your trial
phase, otherwise why start in a state that has a greater population than all of Canada,
eh? LOL

The small towns should be your first steps... smaller mistakes make smaller ripples.
And better affiliates make better partners.

Happy selling!

Robert Lee
Internet Marketer Helper

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Re: PressMania Beta
From: Brian Lawrence

Hello Bogdan,

One question I have right off is will the posts that we make, only be regional/local or
will we have the option of posting nationwide/certain countries/worldwide?
>From what I see here it is local, unless you multiple post to each one.

Will posts about the same opportunity/program be allowed or will it be whoever
posts first about it?

It does seem to be a little blah with it all being blue, possibly make the section
headings a different color or the links in the sections.

Navigation does seem to be very easy and simple.

Best Regards

Brian Lawrence

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Re: Looked at PressMania and looks good...
From: Kristen Voegeli

I like the idea of having the same categories set up for each region,
it allows the user to go directly to the area they are looking for
without having to open up various windows on their browser. Precise, tidy,
straightforward: looks good.
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Re: No Activation Link..?
From: Larry Sands

AdlandPro has been one of the best advertising locations on the WWW since its
creation!! Traffic has definitely increased on my web pages... :-) However, I recently
accessed your new NY area ads location and opted to run two separate ads there, but
there wasn't an area for business or home business opps. So I chose two other
locations to place them in.
Besides the many typos in several areas, there were also no email/emails ever sent to
by iwon box to activate my ad..? I then went back to locate my ads...No success..?
"What Happened"!! Also, everyone should be able to see the ad/ads before they are
actually placed. Anyway, good luck to your expansion. You WILL make it work!!


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Re: Remarks
From: Michael Francis

I like the concept. It looks like the beginning of a national directory, where you can
advertise locally or nationally.
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Re: Feedback re- proposed N.Y. ad campaign
From: John Morley

Thanks for the information regarding the New York advertising.
I viewed the site and placed an ad.

It is very user friendly and will give me access to a market that needs my program.

Because my program is just starting, I don’t yet have the prescribed level of network
contacts.

However, I feel that is just a matter of time.

Best wishes,

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Re: Feedback on NY PressMania
From: Geoff Dodd

Hi Bogdan,

First impressions are paramount.
http://ny.pressmania.com gave me a mental image of a dull gray battleship steaming
up the Hudson River towards the Statue of Liberty..

No excitement radiating..

I feel the site needs a clever, colorful logo projecting action and energy - something
about to happen.

The IDEA though is 'right on time' with the big S.E. gathering their scripting forces
for LOCAL SEARCH… local is the new frontier!

Go for it now but please get a logo competition and color-scheme revolution
crackling like fireworks -popping with iridescence, first. Make it shimmer and shiver
with excitement.

Tingle a few spines. Color.
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Re: FEEDBACK ON SITE
From: Greg Lomas

I noticed this site is designed for Americans only so on the whole it is a good site but
America only I guess. I did think it needed some things to make the page stand out a
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Re: New Auction Site
From: Ronald Wolner

Look's very good to me. At the moment I can't think of anything to change. When
will it open in the Denver area?

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Is This Really Ethical Marketing Tactics?
From: Judy Hortin

I revived a failed attempt at web marketing and felt full of enthusiasm. Maybe the
tired old phoenix had the energy to rise again.

I did a lot of research and decided to use PageSwirl as my rotator and downline
builder. It seemed to be the Rolls Royce of traffic generation systems, so I put my
affiliate link on a web site that I had struggled to build and discovered that, if I
clicked on the affiliate link they gave me, PageSwirl closed my browser. If I clicked
the back button, it defaulted to Page Swirl. I felt angry. Was that anger justified? I
wasn't sure so I decided to see if other rotators did the same. The practice seemed "a
bit off" to me. What do other people think?

I was thrilled to discover that TrafficG's Free Rotator (http://www.freerotator.com,)
offered free members unlimited a link where they could rotate unlimited URLs from
an unlimited amount of rotators. Nobody earns by recommending the program and it
does not close your browser, if anybody clicks on it. It only costs $9.99 for a year, if
you want to add other features including autoresponders and unlimited trackers.
PageSwirl charge the same per month. I am utterly delighted and I would like to
express my thanks to the webmaster at TrafficG for providing such value for money.

My personal site is aimed at promoting products and services that can be promoted
off line as well as on line, which is why I chose Adlandpro. You provide a service
that people can introduce to local businesses.
When I discovered The Software Partnership,
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/judy.hortin/fsf.html), I downloaded over 70 pieces of
software to use and sell, I was convulsed with schoolgirl giggles. My thoughts were
reminiscent of a cartoon, where Fanny Hillman was launching her latest book,
"Memoirs of a Jewish Madam." The caption was "THIS IS BUSINESS. YOU
HAVE GOT IT. YOU SELL IT. YOU HAVE STILL GOT IT." I ask your readers,
why really good tools and products that people you can sell on or off line don't get
better press. The software that I have downloaded could be demonstrated from a
table in the shopping centre, to local tradesmen or to experienced online marketers. I
was so thrilled with it, that I have offered a Path2prosperity guarantee on my web
site. "If you can not find anything to suit you in this bundle of software, I will eat my
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A Door of Opportunity. Why do 97% fail?
From: Gary Mutton

Do you ever ask yourself, why it is that around 97% of Internet based business's fail?
I suspect that there are several factors at play here, but many that are new to the
Internet or new to Internet marketing mainly fail for three reasons.

1. They do not have any marketing knowledge or experience.
2. They are not giving the right opportunity.
3. They are not giving any real help, support or training.

All of these factors are crucial if you are going to succeed with any Internet based or
home business, without knowledge, experience, opportunity, help, support and
training, you are left wondering aimlessly around the Internet jumping from one
program to the next, always thinking that this will be the one, spending more and
more money on this program, that program. Hyped up software that will be your
automatic money spinner.

There is no shortcut, no software is going to turn your fortune if by magic. There's no
"Magic Wand" It take's hard work on your part, but if given the right opportunity.
The support and training that you need to market successfully, then the knowledge
and experience will surely follow.

Read the short story below, I hope it will inspire you a little.

A Door of Opportunity.

A young destitute man, down on his luck, hungry and despairing. Wondering in the
City's Main train station asked a stranger if he would give him some change. The
stranger asked him why he needed some change from him; the destitute man said he
needed some change to get into the wash room so he could clean up and use the
W.C. The stranger pulled his wallet from his coat pocket and looked inside, he found
that he did have some change and gave a few coins to the young man.

The young man made his way over to the wash room. Just as he was approaching the
wash room, another man came out, he see the young man approaching so left the
door open, the young man thanked him, put his change back in his pocket and went
into the washroom.

After the young man had finished in the wash room and was cleaned up he stood a
thought to himself, "What shall I do with the change I still have in my pocket?" The
young man wondered out of the train station and into a fruit machine arcade. He put
a coin in a fruit machine, to his astonishment he won, he won enough money to buy
himself a meal, but he put another coin in the machine, he could not believe what
happened. He won the jackpot from that machine. This is my lucky day, he thought.

Now this was only a run of the mill off street arcade, so it was not a fortune he had
from winning that jackpot, but it was a lot of money to a man that had nothing at all.
any how, the young man see that he now had a opportunity to change his
circumstances, he went to a cheap clothes store and bought himself some new
clothes. Then he decided to go see if he could find himself a job. After he had been
looking at store front ad boards for a while, he noticed a sign in a bar window saying
“Live-in barman wanted, no experience needed".

The young man went into the bar and asked to speak to the Manger about the Job,
The Manager asked the young man if he could get a reference from his present or
previous employer, the young man said he could not and explained his situation and
the events that had led up to him being there and asking for the Job. The Manager
was impressed by the young mans efforts to change his present life situation and
decided he would give the Job to him, at least for a trial period.

Well the young man worked and lived in that bar for several years, the Manager
trained him well in all aspects of bar work and now was training him to manage the
bar so he could be a head barman and take over the running of the bar when the
Manager needed to be away or wanted some time off.

The young man learnt well, he now has a bar of his, be it as a manager, but his
ambition now is to own a bar of his own.

Ok, ok, I hear you. Yes I know, that's stretching it a little, however the moral is there.
All the elements I mention that you will need to be successful are in the story. The
opportunity, the help training, and the knowledge and experience came to the young
man in time, and now he is successful.

Which character do you think was most instrumental to the young man’s success?
They were all important factors, but to me it is the man leaving the wash room and
left the door open (!) that was the opportunity, that character, gave the young man an
opportunity by leaving the door open.

I will leave the door open for you too. If you wish to succeed and get help and
training, I will help you. How can I do that, you say, all on my own? No, I am with a
co-op, all the members help each other and we have formal training too. So there it
is, the door is "OPEN" the rest is up to you, I will help any one that joins with me or
the co-op. To you success.

Author. Gary Mutton. MFE. (Mutton Family Enterprise)
http://www.dare2dream39.com/

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© All rights reserved 2005
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