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                                         Moderator, Amalia Sotiriadou
                                         Vol. 1 issue #451 April 07, 2005


 

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Word from the Moderator
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Food For Thought
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Are you a positive thinker?

Responses to Previous Tidbits (5)
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Ken Webb, Eva Marie Farrell, Charles Green, Angelo Minneboo, David Ferguson

Continuing Discussions (4)
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1. Re: Why do Internet marketers lie so bluntly?
William Jaroske, Ken Webb

2. Re: Has Internet marketing become history?
Devasish Gupta

3. Re: Are Affiliates being short changed?
David Ferguson

4. Re: Conference Calls
Ken Webb

New Discussions (1)
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1. Stay Positive!
From: Joe Stewart

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You know, I doubt if there is a more intelligent and dedicated group of people than
the Digest readers and contributors. Whether you are “newbies” or “old hands”, I can
usually discern the DRIVE, the CARING and the DEDICATION to our field of
business. Even when the comments are negative, they are simply an example of
HOW MUCH you CARE about righting the wrongs that exist in our world.
All I can say is I’m with you 100%!!!


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Are you a positive thinker?
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Talking about caring and negative comments, this question came to my mind (helped
along by Joe Stewart’s post below!). We are told time and time again that the only
way to succeed BIG is if we think positively. Now, to tell you a secret, I’ve been
trying to improve my own thinking – which by nature is rather pessimistic – and I
was wondering how YOU think?

Do you always try to find the silver lining in every cloud or do you wallow in
negativity, pondering upon the injustices of the world and your own dire
circumstances?

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=================Responses to Previous Tidbits==============

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Re: Do we think locally or globally?
From: Ken Webb


Hi,

This really depends on what you are selling.
I am based in the UK but the vast majority of my customers, contacts, subscribers etc
are based in the US or Canada.

The rest are made up from various parts of the world. Only a handful are from the
UK which I believe has more to do with the problems I bought up in the last issue.

There is so much that can be transferred onto disc or downloaded directly from the
web that distance is not a problem for me personally.Of course, if I was selling bulky
items it would probably be a different story.

So my answer at present is "I think Globally".
But if I was selling consumables many other factors would come into play and it will
be interesting to hear other replies to this question.

Regards,

Ken.


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Re: Both Local and Global
From: Eva Marie Farrell

Hi,
I don't mind if it is Local or Global. You need to do what you have to do in order to
make more money in your business, provided with the good quality of products and
services. To be honest, I am doing business from Greece I am one of the distributor
The NO.1 Olive Oil in the World is from Greece www.oliveoilgoesmlm.com/?Extra 

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MODERATOR: O.K. Eva, that was a concealed ad, but since it’s for Olive Oil from
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Re: Do you think locally or globally?
From: Charles Green


Amalia Sotiriadou wrote:
> The basic premise for doing business online is that we have the opportunity to
> expand beyond our neighbourhood, town and country. Or is it? Are we doomed to
> being unable to think beyond the narrow parameters of "walking" or "driving"
distance?
>
> What is your opinion?
>
> When conducting your online business, do you think locally or globally?

I have to respond to this with an absolute GLOBALLY.

Involved with a company that has offices, warehouses, and staff (real live people) in
dozens of countries and a business presence in dozens more, with downline on three
continents, though I'd like to expand that to five or more, we have a global business.

I keep in contact with our downline anyway I can and I'm prepared to contact
prospects anywhere, anytime. Why limit ourselves?

What annoys me is when a prospect wants their sponsor to live next door.

It's not duplicable.

If they want their sponsor to live next door, doesn't that mean that they will also want
their downline to live next door?

As I tell people, once you are dealing with someone outside driving distance, it
doesn't matter much whether they are in the same state or the other side of the world.

Bye for now.

Charles


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Re: I fear the Worst when it comes to Thinking ! ;)
From: Angelo Minneboo

The basic premise for doing business online is that we have the opportunity to
expand beyond our Neighbourhood, town and/or country. Or is it? Are we doomed to
being unable to think beyond the narrow parameters of "walking" or "driving"
distance?

I fear the worst as we have seen men's destructive and narrow mindedness lead great
Nations to their DOOM in the past and all the way through the 'Great History of
ManKind'.
As I experience in my own community things as Hate, Fear , Discrimination , Abuse
and well leave it to your Imagination to fill in further !! I fear the General Public (for
now at least) will stay very much 'on their own turf' and not have the boldness to try
new ventures as these.

However I do foresee that in the Future once the kids that are now growing up and
completely adapted to these new technologies at hand, the fear for what is distant and
strange will very soon be nothing but a faint memory of us 'Old People'. ;)

I wish you lots and lots of Fun Exploring the Internet!
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Re: What is the first thing you would advise your newly recruited people to do?
From: David Ferguson

I agree Robert

You need to read everything you can about what you are promoting, but if you are
selling a product say that is a health product you MUST buy it and try it out yourself.
How can you tell your prospects what it has done for you if you have never bought it
and tried it out. You should get other peoples stories on how it helped them as well.
Bottom line here is it does you no good if your prospects ask you how you like the
product your promoting and you tell them you don't even buy it.
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Re: Why do Internet marketers lie so bluntly?
From: William Jaroske

Dirk van,

The answer is very simple. They do it because they are desperate. So desperate, that
they are willing to telling you anything just to get you to sign up.

These very people I have no respect for.. However, the people tend to hang out on
certain areas of the web. I'm sure you find a lot of them on WAH oriented sites and
mlm forums.

Why on earth would someone tell you that there is a way to make tons of money
quickly? You can do that working a regular job. That is the only way you can make
money fast next to holding garage sales, but who ever got rich quick having garage
sales? That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard LOL.

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Re: Why do Internet Marketers Lie so Bluntly?
From: Ken Webb


Hi,

I answered this question in part in a previous issue. Many marketers, particularly
newbies, are simply copying and pasting the ads they are given by the program
owners.

Others, of course, will say anything to get their hands on your cash. Get Rich Quick,
Make a Fortune in Ten Days etc. I wonder how many are aware that if they make
fraudulent claims about the product they are promoting they can actually be held
responsible? Very few people are aware of this.

For instance if you are an affiliate of "Get Rich Quick" and you claim to me that I am
guaranteed to make $10,000 in ten days I can hold you responsible even if you are
only an affiliate? If I don't make the $10,000 you are responsible, not the program or
product owner.

Very few people are aware of this simple fact which is the reason so many still make
ridiculous claims about the product they are promoting. But there is a noticeable
increase of people now taking action against their uplines rather than the program
owners, where they have evidence of fraudulent claims being made.
Even if you simply copy and paste an ad provided you are still responsible as it was
you that sent it.
You can read about this and many other little known facts on the FTC website. Link
is below.

Regards,
Ken.


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Re: Has Internet marketing become history?
From: Devasish Gupta



I believe Internet Marketing is not dead but the way its done has certainly died. If
you do the basics of internet marketing in the right way then you can effectively
market your website.

There so many websites but only a few are able to succeed. So, what’s the difference
between those few who succeed and those who don't, they both use internet
marketing strategies to promote their sites. Then what draws the line between them?

The difference lies in how they execute those marketing strategies. Instead of
thinking how marketing your services benefits you, think how you can help
customers to benefit through your marketing.

Well, I am no marketing guru but I’ve read about those few sites that do perform
profitably on the net. If you wanna know what i am talking about then you must
consult Ken Evoy... Check out what he has done to some of the websites that make
up those few who succeed online... http://www.casestudies.premium.ws/ 

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Re: Are Affiliates being short changed?
From: David Ferguson

Yes we, they are
Lots of people promote with their affiliate link in which I think is wrong. Lots of
people on the net will cut off the ID part of the link and just go to the company
website and the affiliate will never see the sign up or the money for it.
On good way to beet this is to us a redirect URL. The one I use is very good, and I
use it for the simple fact that I can login to the members’ area and see how many
times my link has been clicked. A good tool to see how your ad is working or not,
and this is easy to use and totally free
Just go to http://beam.to and try it out yourself.

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Re: Conference Calls
From: Ken Webb


Hi,

Conference calls are very useful if they are not abused.
Unfortunately this is now becoming the case. I attended one out of curiosity recently,
it was a pure case of Hard Sell along with the usual Hype.

I hope this doesn't discourage others from attending genuine conferences.
I agree that being able to address an issue to an audience is far superior in all kinds
of ways than either email or the telephone.

Although I have now quit the MLM scene I can still see the value of this.

Regards,
Ken.


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Stay Positive!
From: Joe Stewart

Hello,


I've recently read several articles posted about how "affiliate marketing is dying"
and how marketing on the internet "isn't what it used to be".

This bothers me because the internet is growing like wildfire and although certain
things are changing, it doesn't mean that you can't still earn money with affiliate
programs.

Why not set up a simple "pre-sell" page directing a prospective customer to your
affiliate program? Make sure to get their contact info beforehand and follow up with
autoresponder messages. This will not only make certain that you get credit for the
sale, it will also build your contact list and you won't have to worry about cookies.

Another thing is, I keep hearing how information is the way to make money
online? Did you know that 95% of all money online is made by selling hard goods?
Can you say EBAY?

There are a lot of good things happening out there for anyone who is able to "roll
with the punches" and be willing to go where the money is.

Bottom line: Stay positive!

I highly recommend Ken McCarthy's "Pre-Sell" course for anyone who could use a
"shot in the arm" to get going again. I’ve learned more from his free course than
many ebooks that I've bought.

That's all folks, I just needed to vent.

To your success!

Joe

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