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Vol. 1 issue #455 April 22, 2005
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C o n t i n u i n g D i s c u s s i o n s (5)
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1.Words Can Sometimes Be Taken Out of Context
~Ken Webb
2.In Response To: What's Your Story?
~Mike Sullivan
3.Are YOU a salesperson - True as far as my Kids are concerned,
but that's it.
~Cathy Wagner
4.HYIP? PIPS?
~Judie Urquhart
5.Reply to Ken Re: Positive Thinking
~Cathy Wagner
N e w P o s t s (1)
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1.Yvonne Finn
~Suggestion Needed To Resolve Issue - Help!
Site Review Requests (0)
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Site Review Responses (2)
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1.Cathy Wagner
~Thank you
2.James Pendleton
~Cathy Wagner web site review - onestopinternetbusiness.com
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1.You Bet it's Personal--It's Business!
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Amalia while she's away. This is my first digest so everyone, be
gentle with me. :)
Anyways, I'll be brief here and get on with the festivities.
Note, this is a short digest this time around. Hopefully it'll be larger next
time.
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From:Ken Webb
Subject:Words Can Sometimes Be Taken Out of Context
Hi Rebecca,
I certainly agree with you that words can sometimes be taken out
of context or that one can be be insulting without realising it.
Particularly now we communicate internationally.
I was born in the UK and it is considered an insult here to write
in upper case. We use it to express annoyance or anger.
But I quite often receive emails from others written entirely in
upper case with no intention of being insulting.
I know this is not the main focus of your message but I thought
it a point worth mentioning.
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From:Mike Sullivan
Subject:In Response To: What's Your Story?
Greetings,
Wow, where do I begin? The interesting thing about this subject
is that you have to first define success. Not everyone will tell
you it is money, but we all know we cannot work for free.
I started online from the humble beginnings of the internet
before it was a commercial channel. I was intrigued by it when
my son was in college and I saw how he was using it, researching
information, and all I could think is WOW, this could be the
answer for anyone in business to reach a wider customer base.
Well, that was back in the 80's, and the internet has fulfilled
many dreams of just that, a great means of reaching more
customers and with the efficiency never before available to
businesses before. I looked at it as a worldwide who's who of
business. Even in those crude humble beginnings, information was
and is power.
The internet has exploded since then and I have researched every
new twist and turn along the way to enhance my online and offline
businesses. I have done well over the years, and was always one
of the first to try new marketing strategies. There have been
too many to count, but even fewer that still work as they
originally did.
Like all marketing, strategies and trends are constantly
changing. What use to work now fails to work, and what is new
now is old tommorrow, in simple terms, marketing strategies are a
constantly moving target, and not easy to hit. The internet is
no different, except it is an even faster moving target.
I already had started several businesses which were traditional
brick and mortar, but I knew I could expand on them if I used the
power of the internet. Well, after developing my strategy, my
business exploded, and tripled every year until it almost killed
me with work and stress. My first internet lesson was learned,
control your growth or you will lose it with poor customer
service.
Over the years I researched strategies to make the business more
customer sevice oriented, not high growth, so the internet is a
great tool to enhance your business, but as I mentioned before,
it is a constantly moving target. Pure marketing on the internet
is near death in my opinion as the arena has become way to
overcrowded in recent years. I still earn a great living on the
internet, but for someone just starting, it will be a 1000 times
more difficult in my opinion.
The internet is great for providing fast information to your
customers, staying in contact with them, building relationships,
etc, but the days of pure marketing results are numbered. I see
my businesses tapering off through what was a constant growth
pattern, so I am now moving back to where I started, utilizing
more traditional marketing strategies with the internet as a tool
for my customers to use and access questions and answers more
conveniently.
Will the internet open more doors in the future, perhaps, but
with all the current spam issues and filters blocking almost all
emails, never mind spam, I think the good old days on the
internet are long gone. You look at what's new, and the only
bright sot are blogs and RSS feeds which I have also begun using,
and this is probably the last hurrah for the internet and
marketing. Time will tell, but I cannot think of anything which
has not already been tried.
With gambling the fastest growing segment of the internet, as it
has been for several years, this still remains one of my best
performing internet businesses, while now crowded, it still is
one of my best online businesses. The secret to success is to
deversify and never put all your eggs in one basket, and above
all, never quit.
Good luck, Mike
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From:Cathy Wagner
Subject:Are YOU a salesperson - True as far as my Kids are
concerned, but that's it.
Hi Gary,
I think I should clarify. I do not think a successful salesperson
will try to convinvce someone to buy even after they have said
no. I'm with you, I won't do it either.
Your perception seems to be that all salepeople are pushy and
selfish, that they are only interested in the sale and not
serving their customers. I think this is a myth. The best
salespeople are truly interested in helping their clients and
creating a win-win situation. They know their clients will return
when they are sure to be treated honestly and fairly. This is the
type of salesperson I insist on being.
Also, you might not have gotten my whole point when I gave that
example of trying to sell your kids on a snack. My kids are a
very tough sell. There are days when I can try to sell them
forever and it just won't happen. I eventually have to put my
foot down and say, "You're going to do what I say." They have not
agreed. I have not convinced them that my way is best. This is
not a sale.
Of course, I can only do this with them because they are my kids.
I can force my choice because I am the boss here. But, this type
of interaction can't compare with any other human relationship.
Poor salesmanship won't fly in the real world. Persuading is very
different from forcing.
Have a Profitable Day,
Cathy Wagner
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From:Judie Urquhart
Subject:HYIP? PIPS?
I could not understand Mikes letter. First he talked about HYIP
and then he talked about PIPS. I have been away for awhile with
the newsletter and can someone explain to me what these are?
Thanks, Judie
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From:Cathy Wagner
Subject:Reply to Ken Re: Positive Thinking
Hi Ken,
Actually my mentor uses a very simple "nuts and bolts" approach
to changing thought patterns. Mostly, it involves physically
writing specific affirmations to penetrate your subconcious
faster and monitoring your thoughts and speech (with her help) to
eliminate all negativity. She also focuses on gratitude, tithing
and some visualization once you've gotten past the basics. It's a
gradual process that doesn't promise instant results (although
some have reported this,) but rather produces long term, positive
habits that are designed to stick with you.
Regards,
Cathy
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From:Yvonne Finn
Subject:Suggestion Needed To Resolve Issue - Help!
Hello Adlanpros,
Can you send ways that you would handle this situation.
THE ISSUE:
I have lost my domain name.
Not due to any carelessness on my part.
I purchased the name at Bravenet.com.
I recently renewed it (on time).
Apparently and unbeknown to me, Bravenet.com and their lease
company Dodora.net are caught in some kind of power struggle,
Dodora are holding the domain names "hostage".
Mine is one of those being locked.
I have no domain, no website due to company that I know nothing
of and have never dealt with.
I know the Internet is still the Wild Wide West, but can this
really be done?
How would you proceed.
I have already written to Dodora.
They sent a generic non-reply.
Thanks for "listening".
Please help if you can.
Yvonne Finn
ID: 44163
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Thank you James and Yvonne!
I really appreciate you taking the time to look and give me your
comments. And what positive comments they were! You really
answered my questions. I think this is it! The final version! :-D
Thanks again!
Cathy
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From:James Pendleton
Subject:Cathy Wagner web site review -
onestopinternetbusiness.com
Cathy you have a great looking site.
Not crazy about the frames for the
index page .. but it works with
a Google P/R of 4/10 !
Navigation: excellent
Color scheme:excellent
Load at 28.8 is 16 sec great!
Your site is content rich! As
far as me believing it? Well I have
read so much hype on the web
for so many years I don't believe
any of it. Helping others is a great
concept.
I looked at it as a newbie and your
site says you are very credible. It
says you have credibility. That is what
counts! I am sure you are already
doing well with it. Keep up the good
work!
James Pendleton
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